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Java Forum / General / May 2006Frameworks
Hello, I am about to develop a J2EE application and having some trouble choosing the frameworks, some of which I have in mind are - Spring - Struts - Hibernate - Tapestry - Openlazslo - echo2 - Drools what do you think about them, especially openlazslo and echo2 ? I would very much like to use flash or ajax on presentation layer, and openlazslo has fascinated me, but havent been able to find the integration data about integrating openlazslo to spring and such. I do not know if I will have trouble, well as tapestry. Furthermore, I will be glad to hear about the other choices I have made, any better alternatives, difficulties you have been through in implementing the ones I think of. I am new to J2EE and any comment will be very useful. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > implementing the ones I think of. I am new to J2EE and any comment will > be very useful. You have discounted a very good option from your comparison list which is JSF. Whatever you do, stay away from flash (my 2 cent). I would not bother into going through the stuff if it were action script or smth such, but if you look at openlazslo, you will see that it is a servlet that interprets the xml file and renders a flash presentation layer accordingly, and integration to the domain objects or the persistence mechanism by the use of xml. The feedbacks around the net are very positive. Although flash was a thing to run from in the past, due to it was a designer aimed tool after all, applets have not been able to acquire what it does, and ajax is really tough to implement, as client side manipulation through dom is a nightmare. So, openlazslo seemed like a solution. Please do tell me if I am missing any points. atcevik schrieb: > I am about to develop a J2EE application and having some trouble > choosing the frameworks, some of which I have in mind are Hm, these are very different frameworks, and they solve different problems. > - Spring Application framework with all kinds of tiers that can be used independantly. > - Struts A very old web tier. > - Hibernate ORM. > - Tapestry Template engine. > - Openlazslo Complex rich web client platform. While Flash is good for some applications (especially with graphics), it isn't for lots of others. A fileupload for example is not possible with Flash (I think the current beta of the player has this feature, but it is not distributed well enough). So it really depends on your app... > - echo2 Web tier with lot's of JavaScript and AJAX that only works on a few browsers. I think millstone (http://www.millstone.org/) has a similar set of GUI widgets, but it is much more reliable. > - Drools Unknown. There are many other java web frameworks: http://java-source.net/open-source/web-frameworks My personal favourite is Wicket: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ Good handling of HTML templates, no XML, everything is done in Java, AJAX support. You have to write complex GUI widgets yourself. Timo you might also consider macromedia Flex for the web tier. just a thought. > atcevik schrieb: >> I am about to develop a J2EE application and having some trouble [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Timo Thought I should have written clearlyer I am not trying to compare hibernate to openlazslo or smth. Some of these are the frameworks I intend to use, and some are just competitives. I intend to use Spring as the IOC, Hibernate as the orm, drools as the rules engine. The presentation layer seems to have more than one choice for me, Openlazslo, tapestry, echo2, struts and more. I do not know if I will be able to use some of these together, eg. openlazslo and tapestry. Regarding jsf, the articles I have read have made me look upon tapestry instead. regarding flex, I do not feel comfortable using a product which is not opensource & free, I would prefer openlazslo in case. atcevik schrieb: > I do not know if > I will be able to use some of these together, eg. openlazslo and > tapestry. No. OpenLazlo will probably work significantly different than HTML based web frameworks. I don't think this would integrate well, if at all. > Regarding jsf, the articles I have read have made me look upon tapestry > instead. Tapestry is a nice component oriented framework. I think Wicket is more modern and is easier to work with, especially regarding templates. atcevik schrieb: > regarding flex, I do not feel comfortable using a product which is not > opensource & free, I would prefer openlazslo in case. Flex is not open source, but it's free. HaXe (http://haxe.org/) might be another alternative. Timo Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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