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Java Forum / General / April 2006Any Not banded report engine for Java?
Hi, I Hate report engines that uses bands. They´re for easy reports ,when you want something fancier you need To do things "by hand" . In Delphi I like Nevrona Rave reports(code based). Basically it gives me a canvas(a kind of blank page),where I can put what I want Where I Want. I Don´t want to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using bands,I have Done it many times before (Justr search Marcello noa banded reports). All I want is the name of a product. Regards, Marcello Dias What the heck is a 'band', as in "banded report engine"? I've never heard this term in my entire IT career. It's going to be very hard for anyone to answer your question if you use words that no one knows.... -- Rhino Hi, I Hate report engines that uses bands. They´re for easy reports ,when you want something fancier you need To do things "by hand" . In Delphi I like Nevrona Rave reports(code based). Basically it gives me a canvas(a kind of blank page),where I can put what I want Where I Want. I Don´t want to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using bands,I have Done it many times before (Justr search Marcello noa banded reports). All I want is the name of a product. Regards, Marcello Dias > What the heck is a 'band', as in "banded report engine"? I've never heard > this term in my entire IT career. > > It's going to be very hard for anyone to answer your question if you use > words that no one knows.... Apparently, I'm "out of the loop" and this is a more common term than I thought. -- Rhino Banded report engines are those that work with bands. You put objects inside these bands.like texts,fields and so on. and pray for it to work :>} Crystal Reports for example . Marcello > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Regards, > Marcello Dias just use a banded report (ireports/jasperreports), set all other areas to zero except 1 area & set that one area to the maximum page size. wala!! A "canvas" you can paint on. crayons, plastic scissors and crazy glue not supplied. Steve  SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Ok. When I have knowledge enough I´ll do that. I started to learn Java this week. But finding a report generator that didn´t use bands in Delphi was a nightmare. So I started to look for a Java one since now. Regards, Marcello DIas You may find Scribe meeting your needs. www.reportgenerator.org Alex Molochnikov Gestalt Corporation Hi, I Hate report engines that uses bands. They´re for easy reports ,when you want something fancier you need To do things "by hand" . In Delphi I like Nevrona Rave reports(code based). Basically it gives me a canvas(a kind of blank page),where I can put what I want Where I Want. I Don´t want to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of using bands,I have Done it many times before (Justr search Marcello noa banded reports). All I want is the name of a product. Regards, Marcello Dias Hi Alex, I think what I need is a much simple program. I want a tool that basically let me do reports like I allways did in Clipper,Cobol. Of course with some facilities. Reports are not OOP ,they´re procedural. Of course they should work with centimeters and not lines like before. I would like something like this if pageposition>pagesize page.add() say(1,00,2,00,"report title") say(2,00,2,40,"date:10/01/2006 page:"+...... endif say(linecontrol,columcontrol,text) In other words no draging and droping at design time,just a blank page. Marcello > Hi Alex, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Marcello The genius of CoBOL (and DOS dot matrix printers) was that those (implicit) dev environments provided most of a very common large subset of (American English oriented) business document frameworks. Think in terms of Java providing a more complete set of frameworks, with broader orientation, with the apparent disadvantage that you must therefore tell Java which parts of the framework you want to use. I suspect that part of what you want is simply the ability to print a bunch of lines to a real printer? In fact with nevrona Rave reports code based,I could do as beautifull reports as the one made with every banded report engine. The user have no idea if the reports were made with bands or not. But in the company where I worked when there was a need of a very complicated report with many sub details ,that should work fast.They called me to write it "by hand". Specially financial and accounting ones. I think those that have used Delphi will probably understand. For Delphi i found three engines that worked like This VPE,GMPrintSuite and Rave Reports Code based. I hope I´ll find something like this for Java Marcello > In fact with nevrona Rave reports code based,I could do as beautifull > reports as the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Marcello non-banded report engines are not professional. in a business environment , in fact in almost Any environment , your data is going to be banded, even if you personally think it is the bastard son of the devil. to be honest you better just start learning to use banded report engines. there is nothing more logical for laying out invoices or reports. "header" is used for your letterhead, company address etc "data" is used for anything that is itterable "summary/footer" is used for subtotals, and other bits that go at the bottom. I cannot see how you could possibly lay out something like an invoice , where you do not know how many items are on it , without using bands. The same with any sort of report that is marginally complex, with varying amounts of data. personally I would stop my quest for the holy grail & follow the rest of the industry. Steve SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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