Java 1.6

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Kenneth P. Turvey - 31 Mar 2006 04:01 GMT

Another user of the NetBeans mailing list suggested that using java 1.6
was the way to go for various reasons.

I was just wondering if 1.6 is stable enough for daily (not particularly
bug sensitive) work? What are the advantages of 1.6 over the latest 1.5
release? The only difference I know of is support for the system tray,
this doesn't hold any value for me.

Thanks.

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Roedy Green - 31 Mar 2006 04:12 GMT

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:01:46 -0600, "Kenneth P. Turvey"
<kt-usenet@squeakydolphin.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>I was just wondering if 1.6 is stable enough for daily (not particularly
>bug sensitive) work?

I have not found problems with it, but clearly Sun feels the number of
outstanding bugs means it is still not ready for prime time.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html#DIFFERENCES for the goodies.
Nothing all that exciting.

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Kenneth P. Turvey - 01 Apr 2006 23:18 GMT

> I have not found problems with it, but clearly Sun feels the number of
> outstanding bugs means it is still not ready for prime time.
>
> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html#DIFFERENCES for the goodies.
> Nothing all that exciting.

I installed it to see if my code would work correctly in it, but NetBeans
hangs while trying to scan the classpath. I think it is probably too
unstable for my use.

Thanks for the link.

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IchBin - 02 Apr 2006 01:18 GMT

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I am running JDK 1.5 and 1.6 on Netbeans 1.5 with no problems at all.
Then again, I am running on Windoz XP SP 2.

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Thomas Hawtin - 31 Mar 2006 06:29 GMT

> I was just wondering if 1.6 is stable enough for daily (not particularly
> bug sensitive) work? What are the advantages of 1.6 over the latest 1.5
> release? The only difference I know of is support for the system tray,
> this doesn't hold any value for me.

A bug I recently filed was demonstrated with a program which just did
new TextField() and another with new JTextField(). The former only
applied to XAWT (non-Windows) and the latter only if you used
-esa/-enablesystemassertions.

I've been using it since July and apart from those two bugs it's been
fine. However, it might tickle bugs in applications that have not been
tested with it. I found deadlocks in jEdit using Mustang and a couple
years ago with a Tiger beta. Also keeping up with security fixes seems a
bit patchy (not that I'm bored enough to work out exactly what is going on).

Tom Hawtin

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Oliver Wong - 31 Mar 2006 18:44 GMT

I heard they're improving the JTable API a bit, with filters and sorters
and stuff like that.

- Oliver

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IchBin - 31 Mar 2006 19:55 GMT

>> I was just wondering if 1.6 is stable enough for daily (not particularly
>> bug sensitive) work? What are the advantages of 1.6 over the latest 1.5
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> - Oliver

http://java.sun.com/developer/JDCTechTips/2005/tt1115.html#2

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IchBin - 31 Mar 2006 20:00 GMT

>>> I was just wondering if 1.6 is stable enough for daily (not particularly
>>> bug sensitive) work? What are the advantages of 1.6 over the latest 1.5
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> http://java.sun.com/developer/JDCTechTips/2005/tt1115.html#2

Sorry, more info..

Desktop Java Features in Mustang
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/mustang/#Swing

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noone - 31 Mar 2006 22:31 GMT

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> release? The only difference I know of is support for the system tray,
> this doesn't hold any value for me.

I'm still happy with 1.4.

1.5 broke most of my swing programs and generics are a lousy alternative
for c++ templates. :^)

Seems they finally fixed most of the major flaws in the netbeans
version that ships with 1.4. At least it no longer crashes on me every
half hour.

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Roedy Green - 31 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT

>1.5 broke most of my swing programs

how? Have you an example of the code that stopped working?

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noone - 01 Apr 2006 07:23 GMT

>>1.5 broke most of my swing programs
> how? Have you an example of the code that stopped working?

not at this very moment. Several months ago I installed 1.5, tried to run
bytecode programs that did not work (the events were not being fired
properly...firing was sporatic at best), tried recompiling with the same
affect, then promptly blew away 1.5 and went back to 1.4.

The event handlers were quite trivial really, just overrode a
couple of adapter classes. One that comes to mind was a keystroke
listenner and another was a mouse adapter that allowed me to select a
color from an HSV colorspace block.

1.4 under Linux Fedora Core 4 is more than adequate for my purposes.

and yes, I know that my examples are not swing specific.

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Thomas Hawtin - 01 Apr 2006 08:19 GMT

> not at this very moment. Several months ago I installed 1.5, tried to run
> bytecode programs that did not work (the events were not being fired
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> listenner and another was a mouse adapter that allowed me to select a
> color from an HSV colorspace block.

Sounds like serious bugs. Did you report any?

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noone - 01 Apr 2006 09:55 GMT

> Sounds like serious bugs. Did you report any?

The short answer is no. The long answer, not wishing to cause an online
debate, is that unless it comes out of time that I'm on the pay clock I
don't report bugs. There are several reasons for this but that
discussion would probably start a flame war.

btw: I looked at your website. You have some interesting information on
there. You ever play with KDtree algorithms? There is a fantastic open
source kd class in c++ that I'm going to have to port to java one of these
days. of course the challenge is that I don't like java generics the c++
class relies heavily upon templates.

still unemployed? good luck in that endeavour. Some industry analysts
here in the states are predicting another big downturn in the computer
industry in the next couple of years. I'm sooooo glad I finally have some
job security.

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Roedy Green - 01 Apr 2006 19:32 GMT

>not at this very moment. Several months ago I installed 1.5, tried to run
>bytecode programs that did not work (the events were not being fired
>properly...firing was sporatic at best), tried recompiling with the same
>affect, then promptly blew away 1.5 and went back to 1.4.

I am using the Windows version, and saw no such trouble. I gather you
did not report any of the Linux 1.5 bugs.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/bugs.html

You are the first person to mention this. This hints there is
something unusual about your setup. What distribution/hardware were
you using?

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