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Are you a Rockstar in Java Programming ?
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josh.s17@gmail.com - 24 Mar 2006 11:42 GMT Why do people always ask for "Complete Knowledge of Software Product Development Lifecycle"?
Patrick May - 24 Mar 2006 13:05 GMT > Why do people always ask for "Complete Knowledge of Software Product > Development Lifecycle"? Because good developers should realize that there is much more to getting a product or custom system into production than simply coding.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2006 21:28 GMT >> Why do people always ask for "Complete Knowledge of Software >> Product Development Lifecycle"? > > Because good developers should realize that there is much more > to getting a product or custom system into production than > simply coding. Alternatively, because they really want to stick you with either
1) Maintaining code that someone else wrote
2) (Even worse!) supporting code that someone else wrote
Okay, that's cynical. But I think that the requirement itself is a little bit useless as worded, because there are several different software methodologies. Someone who has worked in a waterfall style project might find it difficult to transition to XP, and vice versa.
I do agree that having followed a product from inception to end of line, or at least end of current release cycle and beyond, gives a different perspective.
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David Alex Lamb - 24 Mar 2006 17:20 GMT I'm sitting here wondering just what a Rockstar in Java Programming would be. Coding while stoned out of his/her mind? Surrounded by groupies? And is s/he a Metallica style rockstar, suing everyone who downloads her/his Java programs from the net? or more like some of the others, who figure it's a draw for their commercial stuff?
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James McGill - 24 Mar 2006 17:43 GMT > I'm sitting here wondering just what a Rockstar in Java Programming would be. Somebody you'd hire at a higher rate than you make yourself.
Somebody who you would stand in line to get their autograph on their book, at a conference.
Oliver Wong - 24 Mar 2006 18:21 GMT >> I'm sitting here wondering just what a Rockstar in Java Programming would >> be. > > Somebody you'd hire at a higher rate than you make yourself. That's like... everybody...
> Somebody who you would stand in line to get their autograph on their > book, at a conference. That's like... nobody...
- Oliver
Roedy Green - 24 Mar 2006 19:26 GMT >I'm sitting here wondering just what a Rockstar in Java Programming would be. >Coding while stoned out of his/her mind? Surrounded by groupies? And is s/he >a Metallica style rockstar, suing everyone who downloads her/his Java programs >from the net? or more like some of the others, who figure it's a draw for >their commercial stuff? Long hair, nice pecs, will screw anything for money.
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James McGill - 24 Mar 2006 20:22 GMT > Long hair, nice pecs, will screw anything for money. Roedy, you're a Java Rockstar, and you don't even have two of the three attributes above.
...runs...ducks...
Roedy Green - 24 Mar 2006 21:03 GMT On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:22:52 -0700, James McGill <jmcgill@cs.arizona.edu> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>Roedy, you're a Java Rockstar, and you don't even have two of the three >attributes above. I wonder if posterity might mythologise me in India. I had a conversations with various Indians back in 1985 doing a cheerleader thing saying India would become a software giant. One of the people I talked to was the head of Tata, now a software giant. I was an expert from many miles away, so people took me much more seriously than you do now.
The Indians were intent on showing me how modern they had become, e.g. a freight elevator with buttons, and melmac collections. The key for me was the keenness of people to learn and the willingness to work do do the painstaking labour-intensive work of programming for low wages.
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James McGill - 24 Mar 2006 22:08 GMT > I was an expert > from many miles away, so people took me much more seriously than you > do now. Oh, I take you seriously enough, at least on Java issues. Your excellent website is usually the first resource I go to for information.
Now, you politics on the other hand... Let's just agree to disagree, fair enough?
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2006 22:30 GMT >> I was an expert from many miles away, so people took me much more >> seriously than you do now. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Now, you politics on the other hand... Let's just agree to > disagree, fair enough? Now, why would that even be on the table for discussion?
(I prefer not to know the politics of people I have to work with, and I suppose that extends to some extent to those in technical forums / mailing lists / newsgroups I frequent, because when I find out certain things about people, I tend to respect them less. There doesn't seem to be an upside to that in those environments, since I have to deal with those people regardless of my opinion.)
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Scott Ellsworth - 25 Mar 2006 02:54 GMT > >> I was an expert from many miles away, so people took me much more > >> seriously than you do now. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Now, why would that even be on the table for discussion? For Roedy, it does matter. He asks people working on defense-related work to not use his resources, which means I always take care to check who is paying for my current gig before going to the glossary.
To wit:
The information on this page is for non-military use only. Military use includes use by defence contractors.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Mar 2006 03:38 GMT >> Now, why would that even be on the table for discussion? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The information on this page is for non-military use only. Military > use includes use by defence contractors. Oh. Well, then, I guess it *is* relevant.
Carry on.
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Chris Smith - 28 Mar 2006 07:10 GMT > > Now, you politics on the other hand... Let's just agree to > > disagree, fair enough? > > Now, why would that even be on the table for discussion? Frankly, I can't imagine knowing much about Roedy and not knowing about his politics. Not only do they impact using the glossary, but it's also just hard to do much at Roedy's web site or read the newsgroup too long without finding out what he thinks about the world. Not that I mind, personally... and I rather wish other people didn't either, but that's life.
Incidentally, Scott's situation came up for me recently. I would never work for the military of course, but a few weeks ago I was speaking about Java to a group of people who are working on procedures for permanently disabling nuclear weapons in U.S. arsenals. One of them asked about reading little-endian data files, and I was halfway through writing down Roedy's website before I realized they are in at least a military situation, though they technically work for the Department of Energy. I don't know if Roedy would have minded in that situation or not (Roedy?), but I ended up stopping anyway.
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Roedy Green - 28 Mar 2006 07:31 GMT >Incidentally, Scott's situation came up for me recently. I would never >work for the military of course, but a few weeks ago I was speaking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Energy. I don't know if Roedy would have minded in that situation or >not (Roedy?), but I ended up stopping anyway. I am trying to reduce war. I want to reduce military spending and redirect it to making the planet a paradise for man and other species.
I am not asking you to be Solomon; just use common sense interpreting my intention. I am not going to jump on you if you judge slightly differently than I would.
Even if you use my code to build bigger nukes, there is nothing I can do to stop you.
I have given the OK for example for the FAA to use my code. It seems the intent of the FAA is not to create misery, but to prevent planes from colliding, even though they deal with military aircraft too.
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Nigel Wade - 28 Mar 2006 10:35 GMT > Incidentally, Scott's situation came up for me recently. I would never > work for the military of course, but a few weeks ago I was speaking [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > military situation, though they technically work for the Department of > Energy. You can read little-endian data using native APIs. Just read the data into a buffer using a DataInputStream and wrap it in a ByteBuffer which is set to LITTLE_ENDIAN. Then read the data from the ByteBuffer using the ByteBuffer methods, getInt(), getFloat() etc.
Pretty straight forward, I do it all the time. Much of the data we process is generated on PC hardware, so is little endian.
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Nigel Wade - 28 Mar 2006 10:43 GMT Sorry, I forgot to include this in the above post, pressed send too quickly:
The terms of the Java license state that it isn't designed for use related to any nuclear facility. What they are doing might contravene some regulation or law governing the nuclear industry.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Mar 2006 15:50 GMT > Frankly, I can't imagine knowing much about Roedy and not knowing > about his politics. Not only do they impact using the glossary, but > it's also just hard to do much at Roedy's web site or read the > newsgroup too long without finding out what he thinks about the > world. Not that I mind, personally... and I rather wish other > people didn't either, but that's life. I guess I'm exceptionally good at filtering out stuff unrelated to what I'm looking for. That, or his politics don't conflict enough with mine to draw my attention. To be honest, while I was aware of Roedy's dislike of war, I hadn't realized that you're not supposed to use his site for military projects. It's not something that affects me at the moment.
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