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Generics Info request

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Mike Schilling - 22 Feb 2006 00:29 GMT
Does anyone know of a resource that explains the ideas behind Java generics,
that is:

   * The intended user model
   * New concepts required for this user model
   * Generics ideas which were rejected, and why
   * The way the user model is mapped into JVM behavior
   * JVM changes required for generics
   * The places where the user model was compromised (e.g. for
compatibility)
   * Future plans for generics (if any)

That is, something which will make generics seem less like a twisty maze of
special cases.
Timo Stamm - 22 Feb 2006 21:11 GMT
Mike Schilling schrieb:
> Does anyone know of a resource that explains the ideas behind Java generics,
> that is:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> That is, something which will make generics seem less like a twisty maze of
> special cases.

Do you know the generics tutorial from sun?

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/pdf/generics-tutorial.pdf
Mike Schilling - 23 Feb 2006 00:43 GMT
> Mike Schilling schrieb:
>> Does anyone know of a resource that explains the ideas behind Java
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5/pdf/generics-tutorial.pdf

It's OK as far as it goes; I'd like something much deeper.
Chris Uppal - 23 Feb 2006 12:27 GMT
> Does anyone know of [... big snip ...] something which will make
> generics seem less like a twisty maze of special cases.

Have you tried alcohol ?

Failing that, have you seen Neil Grafter's comments in his blog .  By no means
covering all your requests, but it has some fairly interesting reflections.

   http://gafter.blogspot.com/

   -- chris
Roedy Green - 23 Feb 2006 14:55 GMT
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:29:56 GMT, "Mike Schilling"
<mscottschilling@hotmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>Does anyone know of a resource that explains the ideas behind Java generics,
>that is:

what I have found so far you can find links for at
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/generics.html
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