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JB - 14 Feb 2006 07:08 GMT

Hi all,
I just started getting into Java a few months ago, and have
learned some from stuff on the net, but didn't know if any of you had a
good reccomendation for a good book or tutorial on here to get more on
how to program for beginners...

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Bart Cremers - 14 Feb 2006 07:18 GMT

I would recommend
http://www.thejavatutorial.com/
to find tutorials on almost every aspect of the java language.

and

http://mindview.net/Books/TIJ/DownloadSites
if you need a good, free book to containing the basics of java

Bart

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TechBookReport - 14 Feb 2006 09:24 GMT

> I would recommend
> http://www.thejavatutorial.com/
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>
> Bart

Or look at the list of Java book recommendations from TechBookReport
(http://www.techbookreport.com/JavaIndex.html).

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Chris Smith - 14 Feb 2006 15:59 GMT

> http://www.thejavatutorial.com/

Very weird...

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Thomas Weidenfeller - 14 Feb 2006 16:13 GMT

>> http://www.thejavatutorial.com/
>
> Very weird...

Mildly weird ...

Server Used: [ whois.networksolutions.com ]

www.thejavatutorial.com = [ 209.133.1.40 ]

{...}
Registrant:
The Java Tutorial
{...}
Domain Name: THEJAVATUTORIAL.COM
Administrative Contact:
{name of the manager of the swing team} {name}@ENG.SUN.COM
{...}

Stuff in {} has been replaced by me.

/Thomas

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Roedy Green - 14 Feb 2006 16:49 GMT

> I just started getting into Java a few months ago, and have
>learned some from stuff on the net, but didn't know if any of you had a
>good reccomendation for a good book or tutorial on here to get more on
>how to program for beginners...

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gettingstarted.html

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IchBin - 14 Feb 2006 18:20 GMT

> Hi all,
> I just started getting into Java a few months ago, and have
> learned some from stuff on the net, but didn't know if any of you had a
> good reccomendation for a good book or tutorial on here to get more on
> how to program for beginners...

Sun's "The Really Big Index, A list of all content pages in the The
Java Tutorial"
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html

For sample code: "The Java Developers Almanac 1.4"
http://javaalmanac.com

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Finomosec - 16 Feb 2006 23:36 GMT

JB schrieb:

And here is the "The comp.lang.java FAQ List":
http://www.ibiblio.org/javafaq/javafaq.html

It contains many very interesting questions and solutions ...

Greetings Finomosec;

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Thomas Weidenfeller - 17 Feb 2006 08:21 GMT

> And here is the "The comp.lang.java FAQ List":
> http://www.ibiblio.org/javafaq/javafaq.html
>
> It contains many very interesting questions and solutions ...

That one hasn't been maintained for almost nine years. I think it even
dates from before the java newsgroup reorganization. After that FAQ
there was the programmer's FAQ from PvL, which was dropped silently by
PvL at some time. I guess he was busy writing books.

There was also a networking FAQ, which was on autopilot for years, until
it got so outdated that "we" stopped it without asking the author, who
had long ago vanished.

The sad thing is, this group doesn't have a newsgroup FAQ for quite some
time. Instead people like Roedy run their web pages.

/Thomas

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Roedy Green - 17 Feb 2006 10:08 GMT

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:21:31 +0100, Thomas Weidenfeller
<nobody@ericsson.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>The sad thing is, this group doesn't have a newsgroup FAQ for quite some
>time. Instead people like Roedy run their web pages.

The content of my website is very newsgroup-user driven. I see what
people are asking questions on, and either write new entries, polish
entries of interest, or add answers to questions that come up. When I
answer a question with an URL sometimes I have spent several hours
getting the entry ready. It just LOOKS like I am being lazy. Other
times though, the answer has been there for a decade unchanged.

It is a bit like inviting guests over for dinner. I often take a quick
look at the entry to see if it is presentable, and up to date before
posting the URL. It is atrocious, this leads a sweater-thread pulling
experience where every update triggers me noticing the need for
updates in other entries.

It must be frustrating for people following the URLs to see their
questions answered in passing in the entries. They are sure they
answers were not there a hour ago before they posted their questions..
Well, they often weren't. If it were me in that situation, I'd be
improperly blaming myself for inattention.

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Thomas Weidenfeller - 17 Feb 2006 13:31 GMT

> The content of my website is very newsgroup-user driven. I see what
> people are asking questions on, and either write new entries, polish
> entries of interest, or add answers to questions that come up. When I
> answer a question with an URL sometimes I have spent several hours
> getting the entry ready. It just LOOKS like I am being lazy.

I was in no way hinting that you are lazy. It is very obvious how you
update your pages, and anyone with a few firing neurons should be able
to guess that you often first spend time to create or update an entry
before posting the URL.

I was just lamenting the fact that the "good old Usenet times" are gone

:-) and that no one is willing to step forward to start and maintain(!)

a group FAQ or a replacement for the networking FAQ.

/Thomas

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Daniel Dyer - 17 Feb 2006 19:31 GMT

> The sad thing is, this group doesn't have a newsgroup FAQ for quite some
> time. Instead people like Roedy run their web pages.

The JINX site started by Chris Smith (http://riters.com/JINX/) is perhaps
something that could fill the role of an FAQ. A collaborative Wiki is
perhaps a better fit for an FAQ that purports to represent the collective
knowledge of a group. Also, a hyperlinked resource is arguably more
friendly than the old-style ASCII tome.

Dan.

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Chris Smith - 17 Feb 2006 20:54 GMT

> The JINX site started by Chris Smith (http://riters.com/JINX/) is perhaps
> something that could fill the role of an FAQ.

... started by Jon Skeet; then dead for a while, then restarted on a new
server by me. Just to get the attributions right.

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