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What IDE for Java do you use?

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Isend - 31 Jan 2006 08:46 GMT
I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
Thx a lot.
raavi - 31 Jan 2006 08:58 GMT
Hi i have worked with NetBeans 4.1 and Eclipse 3.1 .Both of them seems
good.
Fredy - 31 Jan 2006 09:01 GMT
really depends on what kind of app u want to develop, i use eclipse for
j2ee and it's ok

> I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
> Thx a lot.
Andrey Kuznetsov - 31 Jan 2006 09:28 GMT
>I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
> Thx a lot.

my favorite is Intellij IDEA.
It is not cheap/free, but it was the best investition of my life!

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skudram@gmail.com - 31 Jan 2006 09:52 GMT
hi all. my favorite is .... "eclipse". and ...  "jcreator" is very fast.
Roedy Green - 31 Jan 2006 12:11 GMT
>hi all. my favorite is .... "eclipse". and ...  "jcreator" is very fast.
I am using eclipse.  My main complaints are:

1. slow start up time.

2. refuses to reformat until I have all the syntax errors corrected.
But I need the reformatting to help me find the errors..

3. Error messages are extremely confusing.  Pretty well all they do is
point you to roughly where the problem is.  The actual wordings are
deliberately as obscure as possible.

Nice things:

1. global rename. change a class or method name, and everything in the
universe  is fixed not just the Java source, not just the project you
are working on.  All the clients get fixed too.  It is so quick you
have no excuse not to implement a better or more consistent name if
you can think of it.

2. organise imports.  Adds missing imports, tosses unnecessary ones.

3. reorder,  add definition of variables and methods right beside
where I am working and then sort it later to where it belongs,

4. the instant recompile catches errors right away.  It takes some
getting use to, but it is sort of like a typing tutor to teach you to
get it right first time with the instant feedback.

5. tree structured navigation makes it much easier to find anything
across a sea of projects.
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Paulus de Boska - 31 Jan 2006 09:51 GMT
Eclipse. An additional advantage is, that IBM's Websphere Studio/RAD
suite is based on it and in wide use. So, if you get Eclipse, you'll
have little trouble adapting to IBM's tools.
Here's a short guide :
http://javalessons.com/eclipse/java-eclipse-1.html

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brian.vanheesch@gmail.com - 31 Jan 2006 12:08 GMT
I just moved from JBuilder to Eclipse 312.  Takes some time to get used
to the new keyboard shortcuts & lingo.  Still not use to a single row
of tabs in the editor pane. CTRL-SHIFT-E just doesn't cut it for me.  I
like to see all the files open & which have been modified (especially
for bulk code changes)

Any suggestions on Java Swing development plug-ins to use with Eclipse
(open-source/freeware prefered, but not required).
Roedy Green - 31 Jan 2006 14:18 GMT
>I just moved from JBuilder to Eclipse 312.  Takes some time to get used
>to the new keyboard shortcuts & lingo.  Still not use to a single row
>of tabs in the editor pane. CTRL-SHIFT-E just doesn't cut it for me.  I
>like to see all the files open & which have been modified (especially
>for bulk code changes)
F3 key not being repeat find was a goofy thing to do. That is almost
universal.
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Alan Krueger - 31 Jan 2006 16:33 GMT
>  F3 key not being repeat find was a goofy thing to do. That is almost
> universal.

Not sure why they did it.  I have become accustomed to being able to
select some text, hit CTRL-K and see the next occurrence of that text
using the last find options used.
Boris Gorjan - 01 Feb 2006 16:56 GMT
>>I just moved from JBuilder to Eclipse 312.  Takes some time to get used
>>to the new keyboard shortcuts & lingo.  Still not use to a single row
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>  F3 key not being repeat find was a goofy thing to do. That is almost
> universal.

Window->Preferences->General->Keys->View (Category: Edit, Command: Find
Next)->Edit->Key Sequence etc.
Roedy Green - 01 Feb 2006 20:22 GMT
>Window->Preferences->General->Keys->View (Category: Edit, Command: Find
>Next)->Edit->Key Sequence etc.

thank you. It now works with the exception you must dismiss the find
dialog box first.
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David Segall - 31 Jan 2006 13:02 GMT
>I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
>Thx a lot.
I have posted my answer to this often asked question here
<http://ide.profectus.com.au>
Robert M. Gary - 31 Jan 2006 17:41 GMT
I use IntelliJ at my day job and Eclipse when consulting privately.
I've also use JDeveloper and JBuilder, both of which were inusably slow
at the time but may be better)..

IntelliJ PRO: Easier to use than Eclipse, works out of the box,
includes wizards to create beans, servlets, web projects, etc. You
almost never have to hand modify a configuration XML file (like
web.xml). Lots of plug-ins available.
IntelliJ CON: Costs money (around $300 as I recall)

Eclipse PRO: Its free. There are an insane number of add on plug-ins
available.
Eclipse CON: The plug-ins are very buyer-beware, many don't work well
and can be difficult to get them to play together. There are some
excellent web design plug-ins (I use one that includes Tomcat
integration) but no wizards for web development. Setting up Eclipse to
work with all the plug-ins you want will require an investment in time.

-Robert
hilz - 31 Jan 2006 21:04 GMT
> I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
> Thx a lot.

Netbeans www.netbeans.org
The new NB 5.0 will be released very very soon (in a week or so)
now there is the NB 5.0 RC2 (release candidate 2) which is pretty much
production quality.

It has great GUI builder and so many features are available out-of-the
-box (unlike eclipse where you will have to go plugin-hunting to make it
usable).
I also find NB more intuitive and easier to use than eclipse.

check it out... http://www.netbeans.org
Joe Attardi - 31 Jan 2006 22:59 GMT
> I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
> Thx a lot.

I usually use a plain text editor (jEdit). I find that, when I use
IDEs, I get lazy and start to rely on things like code completion/popup
and such instead of remembering for myself.

Also, c'mon. It only takes two additional keystrokes to type "for"
instead of "4"!
nospam - 01 Feb 2006 00:05 GMT
> I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?
> Thx a lot.

I have used SunONE Studio v6 & v7 which are based on NetBEans
foundations. The only drawback I have seen is that its too much memory
consuming & also comes with SunONE App server by default. Otherwise it
has its own advantages against the other IDEs in the market. Give it a try.
Lion-O - 01 Feb 2006 14:01 GMT
> I am looking 4 a good IDE for Java. Do you have any one to recommend?

I've tried a lot of them myself and ended up with Netbeans. Not too much
overhead (the feeling that the IDE is doing all the work) but also enough tools
and gadgets to make it usable and easily expandable (recent example being the
addidion of javahelp). I'd recommend going over to
http://www.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/java/IDEs.html since your milage and personal
taste may vary.

Having said that, and depending on what you're going to use this for, I'd also
like to advice you not to rule out the plain text editor perse. After having
spend a few evenings behind Netbeans makes starting a program typing out the
common stuff like "public static void main( String[] args) { ... }" tedious but
its still part of the program. Sometimes IDE's can make you lazy and that is
not always good or desireable, IMO at least.

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Bonney Armstrong - 01 Feb 2006 16:41 GMT
I used NetBeans, and it was OK, but I'm using WSAD (WebSphere Studio
Application Developer) now, which is based on Eclipse, and I really
like it. What I like about it so much is one of the Java views; you
bring up the file in the editor and the navigation pops open on the
side showing the folder in which the file lives. I like the search
features, especially the class file locator. I don't know what I'd do
without this tool. It's got quite a learning curve, but after that it's
worth it. It handles the labyrinthine Java structure in a way that's
not confusing.
nospam - 01 Feb 2006 17:13 GMT
> I used NetBeans, and it was OK, but I'm using WSAD (WebSphere Studio
> Application Developer) now, which is based on Eclipse, and I really
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> worth it. It handles the labyrinthine Java structure in a way that's
> not confusing.

Hi...All,

   I recently downloaded eclipse IDE with myeclipse web editor
(myeclipseide.com) . I did not see any views on it in this thread. So,
would be interested to what your thought are on
eclipse+myeclipse(struts, EJB....)
Bonney Armstrong - 02 Feb 2006 17:26 GMT
> Hi...All,
>
>     I recently downloaded eclipse IDE with myeclipse web editor
> (myeclipseide.com) . I did not see any views on it in this thread. So,
> would be interested to what your thought are on
> eclipse+myeclipse(struts, EJB....)

The views in Eclipse aren't initially as elaborate as those under WSAD,
but you can change that;
http://help.eclipse.org/help31/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/ge
ttingStarted/qs-02e.htm

and
http://help.eclipse.org/help31/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/ge
ttingStarted/qs-02e.htm

are a good start. Look on sourceforge.net for a variety of plug-ins so
you can enhance your IDE even more. Eclipse Colorer may be of help:
http://eclipsecolorer.sourceforge.net/index_profiler.html and
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipsecolorer.


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