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Selie Peter - 25 Jan 2006 16:21 GMT
Hello,

I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).
Has anyone experience with writing a Https server in Java? Or a good
tutorial?
Now everything is written in a servlet.
I can't find anything that helps me on the way...

tia
Joe Attardi - 25 Jan 2006 16:30 GMT
> Has anyone experience with writing a Https server in Java? Or a good
> tutorial?

Why do you want to write your own server, and re-invent the wheel?
Selie Peter - 25 Jan 2006 17:13 GMT
>> Has anyone experience with writing a Https server in Java? Or a good
>> tutorial?
>
> Why do you want to write your own server, and re-invent the wheel?

Well, I work with an implementation of OGSI framework and I use the
HttpService to get my servlet online.
But there is (as far as i know) no support in that service for https (ssl).
Any help would be appreciated.

Tia
Thomas Weidenfeller - 25 Jan 2006 17:21 GMT
> Hello,
>
> I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).
> Has anyone experience with writing a Https server in Java? Or a good
> tutorial?

Just the standard documentation:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/jsse/JSSERefGuide.html

/Thomas
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Chris Smith - 25 Jan 2006 17:24 GMT
> I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).

Just a strange comment.  I don't think I've seen the word "secure" used
as a verb as many times in the last five years as I have in the past few
weeks on this newsgroup.  Of oucrse it's grammatically fine, just a
little odd.  I'm curious whether this represents a general linguistic
shift throughout all of modern society, or just a college professor with
strange vocabulary whose students are all rushing to newsgroup... or
something else.

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Oliver Wong - 25 Jan 2006 19:07 GMT
>> I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> strange vocabulary whose students are all rushing to newsgroup... or
> something else.

   What about all those movies where CIA agents/SWAT/men in black/etc. will
say into their voice piece "Secure the perimeter", "secure the area" or
"secure the president", etc?

   - Oliver
Roedy Green - 25 Jan 2006 19:58 GMT
>    What about all those movies where CIA agents/SWAT/men in black/etc. will
>say into their voice piece "Secure the perimeter", "secure the area" or
>"secure the president", etc?

My Oxford dictionary published 1982 shows secure as transitive verb
with three meanings.

1. to fortify
2. to guarantee, make safe against loss
3. succeeded in getting something coveted as in securing theatre
tickets

Today it often seems to be used to mean "obtain", like a weak form of
(3).

In Canada people would say "secure the boat" meaning tie it up
properly.
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Daniel Dyer - 25 Jan 2006 19:29 GMT
>> I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> strange vocabulary whose students are all rushing to newsgroup... or
> something else.

Maybe it's a regional thing?  As a Brit, it's normal, familiar usage to  
me.  I use it myself and have heard it from many others, not just in an IT  
context but in terms of physical security as well.

Maybe the Internet is exporting British and Australian expressions and  
phrases to the US in much the same way that Hollywood as been sending  
stuff in the opposite direction for decades (though the original poster  
seems to be in Belgium)?

Dan.

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Selie Peter - 26 Jan 2006 11:03 GMT
>>> I like to secure a webapplication with https (SSL).
>>
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>
> Dan.
Yeah, I'm from Belgium so I have no idea where I got the word...
Inspiration of the moment?
And as an answer to a previous question: I need the information for my
thesis :-)
Chris Uppal - 26 Jan 2006 12:37 GMT
> Maybe it's a regional thing?  As a Brit, it's normal, familiar usage to
> me.  I use it myself and have heard it from many others, not just in an IT
> context but in terms of physical security as well.

I'm British too, and -- while I agree that it's familar usage -- I don't think
I've ever seen or heard it much in IT circles.  For instance, according to
Google, I havve never used "secure" as a verb in this newsgroup, but I have
used the words security and secure 46 times[*].

I speculate that:  (a) it is or has been fairly rare in US usage, (b) British
technical usage tends to be imported from the US, so (c) it is rare in British
technical usage.  However (d) the current US "homeland security" hysteria (and
related considerations) have brough the verbal form into fashion over there;
and so (e) it is now entering US technical usage.  So (ta da!) now entering the
world's technical volcabulary.

Or there again, maybe not ;-)

   -- chris

[*] Not counting this post.
Oliver Wong - 25 Jan 2006 19:07 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Now everything is written in a servlet.
> I can't find anything that helps me on the way...

You will probably want to read RFC 2818.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2818.txt

   - Oliver


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