Java Forum / General / January 2006
String Manipulation
questionmarc420@msn.com - 23 Jan 2006 19:08 GMT hi, ivebeen pulling my hair our on this for a while now. I receive a string called data body.
it comes like the code below. however when i display it on an html page. the spacign is gone.
////format paragraphs data_body = data_body.replaceAll("\n ","<br><br>"); data_body = data_body.replaceAll("\n\n","<br><br>"); data_body = data_body.replaceAll("\t","<br><br>"); data_body = data_body.replaceAll("<br><br><br>","<br>");
this is the code i used to try an format it placing it in paragraph form. now i don't think my code here is very good or strong. suggestions owuld be nice but that is not hte question im asking.
if u notice hte financial sheets, i need to surround these in a <pre> tags. and i don't know how to go about this. because i can't find anythign indicating the start of the sheet.. for me to replace or add a <pre> tag and close it as well.
if anyone has any ideas please post thanks -morc
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>CHINO, Calif., Jan. 23, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- The Board of Directors of Chino Commercial Bank, N.A. (OTCBB:CKNA) announced the results of operations for the year ended December 31, 2005 with net income of $885,173, a 52.3% increase over net income of $581,381 for December 31, 2004. Net income per share for the year ended December 31, 2005 was $1.08 per share as compared to $0.71 per share for the year ended December 31, 2004. Net income per fully diluted share was $1.00 and $0.66 for the years ended December 31, 2005 and 2004, respectively.
Net income for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2005 was $268,666 or $0.30 per diluted share, a 57.9% increase compared to $170,185 or $0.19 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2004.
Dann H. Bowman, President and Chief Executive Officer stated, "We are very pleased with the continued growth and profitability of the Bank as we complete our fifth full year end. Net earnings represent a return on beginning equity of 15.0% and a return of average assets of 1.05%. Deposit and Loan balances increased this year by 18.8% and 21.5%, respectively, allowing the Bank to show improved stability of earnings and efficiency. Along with this growth, at fiscal year end the Bank reported no loan delinquencies and no loan losses for the entire year."
Financial Condition
At December 31, 2005, total assets were $91.3 million, an increase of $14.2 million or 18.5% from December 31, 2004.
Total loans increased to $41.8 million at December 31, 2005 from $34.4 million at December 31, 2004 or an increase of 21.5%. The growth was primarily in real estate secured lending.
Total deposits increased by 18.8% to $84.0 million at December 31, 2005 from $70.7 million at December 31, 2004. Non-interest bearing deposits increased by $6.5 million or 11.6% since December 31, 2004, and at year end represented 74.5% of total deposits.
Chino Commercial Bank's risk-based capital ratios were 12.14% for Tier 1 capital, 13.20% for Risk-based capital and 7.54% for Leverage capital on December 31, 2005.
Earnings
The Bank posted net interest income of $4,001,071 for the year ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $2,914,252 for the year ended December 31, 2004. Average interest-earning assets were $78.0 million with average interest-bearing liabilities of $18.2 million yielding a net interest margin of 5.13% for the year ended December 31, 2005 as compared to average interest-bearing assets of $65.0 million with average interest-bearing liabilities of $13.7 million yielding a net interest margin of 4.48% for the year ended December 31, 2004. The 65 basis points increase in the net interest margin was the result of the higher average balances as the Bank continues to grow and the effect of upward repricing of the benchmark for Federal funds.
The Bank posted net interest income of $1,103,311 for the three months ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $816,772 for the three months ended December 31, 2004. Average interest-earning assets were $82.9 million with average interest-bearing liabilities of $21.6 million yielding a net interest margin of 5.32% for the fourth quarter of 2005 as compared to average interest-bearing assets of $70.1 million with average interest-bearing liabilities of $14.7 million yielding a net interest margin of 4.66% for the three months ended December 31, 2004.
Non-interest income totaled $553,272 or a decrease of 0.8% from $557,509 earned during the year ended December 31, 2004. Service charges on deposit accounts increased 7.5% to $461,678 due to higher volume of deposit accounts. Income from Mortgage Banking decreased by 73.3% to $17,697 due to reduced activity in the refinance market. Income from bank owned life insurance increased by 7.9% to $64,421 as the Bank purchased policies totaling $1.3 million at the end of January 2004.
Non-interest income totaled $134,745 or an 8.3% decline from the fourth quarter of 2004. Service charges on deposit accounts decreased 4.6% to $115,002 due to the lower volume of overdraft and return item charges. There was no income from Mortgage Banking during the fourth quarter of 2005 as compared to $12,273 in the fourth quarter 0f 2004.
General and administrative expenses were $753,250 for the three months ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $642,636 for the three months ended December 31, 2004. General and administrative expenses were $2,965,458 for the year ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $2,476,404 for the year ended December 31, 2004. The largest component of general and administrative expenses was salary and benefits expense of $385,900 for the three months ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $326,003 for the three months ended December 31, 2004. Salary and benefits expense were $1,451,897 for the year ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $1,234,509 for the year ended December 31, 2004. The increase in Salary and benefits expenses are reflective of the staff and salary increases, incentive compensation and the increase in retirement plan accruals. Other components of general and administrative expenses that affected the increase were Advertising and Marketing expenses which increased by $20,049 for the comparable three month period and increased by $50,305 for the comparable twelve month period due primarily to various marketing campaigns. Other expenses increased by $17,938 for the comparable three month period and increased by $175,525 for the comparable twelve month period due primarily to courier costs and client service charges that were affected by an increase in escrow deposits.
Income tax expense was $173,640 for the three months ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $102,749 for the three months ended December 31, 2004. Income tax expenses were $566,619 for the year ended December 31, 2005 as compared to $336,328 for the year ended December 31, 2004. The effective income tax rate increased from approximately 37% for the year ended 2004 to 39% for the year ended 2005 as various tax credits expired during the year in 2004.
The foregoing contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are not historical facts and include expressions about the Bank's plans, objectives, management's expectations, intentions, relationships, opportunities, and technology and market condition statements. When used in these presentations, the words "expects," "anticipates," "intends," "plans," "believes," "seeks," "estimates," or words of similar meaning, or future or conditional verbs, such as "will," "would," "should," "could," or "may" are generally intended to identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are inherently subject to significant business, economic and competitive uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond the Bank's control. In addition, these forward-looking statements are subject to assumptions with respect to future business strategies and decisions that are subject to change. Actual results may differ materially from the results discussed in these forward-looking statements for the reasons, among others, discussed in Bank's Annual Report on Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2005, which include: changes in general business and economic conditions may significantly affect the Bank's earnings; changes in level of market interest rates; changes in credit risks of lending activities and competitive factors; effective income tax rates, relationships with major customers, extent and timing of legislative and regulatory actions and reforms. The Bank is not obligated to update and does not undertake to update any of its forward-looking statements made herein.
CHINO COMMERCIAL BANK STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL CONDITION
December 31, 2005 2004 ----------- ----------- (unaudited) ASSETS:
Cash and due from banks $ 5,328,842 $ 2,374,688 Federal Funds sold 11,370,000 10,925,000 ----------- ----------- Cash and cash equivalents 16,698,842 13,299,688
Interest-bearing deposits at banks 6,030,000 6,271,000 Investment Securities available for sale 16,311,377 15,562,826
Investment Securities held to maturity (fair value approximates $5,764,134 at December 31, 2005 and $4,859,395 at December 31, 2004) 5,850,687 4,801,024 Federal Reserve Bank stock, at cost 159,600 159,600 Federal Home Loan Bank stock, at cost 362,600 283,500 Pacific Coast Bankers' Bank stock, at cost 50,000 50,000 Loans Construction 2,790,712 3,520,772 Real estate 30,444,344 23,886,582 Commercial 8,295,573 6,534,464 Installment 633,504 635,609 Farm/Agriculture 330,920 346,261 Unearned fees, net (144,106) (119,328) Allowance for loan losses (544,140) (407,046) ----------- ----------- Loans, net 41,806,807 34,397,314 ----------- ----------- Fixed assets, net 1,936,168 389,965
Accrued interest receivable 314,849 258,528 Prepaid & other assets 1,811,979 1,612,617 ----------- ----------- Total Assets $91,332,909 $77,086,062 =========== ===========
LIABILITIES:
Deposits Non-interest bearing $62,610,963 $56,112,375 Interest bearing Money market & NOW 16,793,824 10,231,507 Savings 913,249 926,275 Time deposits of $100,000 or greater, due in one year 2,216,104 1,802,181 Time deposits less than $100,000, due in one year 1,487,803 1,668,794 ----------- ----------- Total Deposits 84,021,943 70,741,132 ----------- -----------
Accrued interest payable 28,858 20,642 Accrued expenses & other payables 588,068 422,994 ----------- ----------- Total Liabilities 84,638,869 71,184,768 ----------- -----------
STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY Common Stock, authorized 10,000,000 shares with a par value of $3.33 per share; issued and outstanding 818,453 at December 31, 2005 and December 31, 2004, respectively 2,728,230 2,728,230 Additional paid-in capital 2,590,600 2,590,600 Accumulated earnings 1,497,818 612,645 Accumulated other comprehensive income (122,608) (30,181) ----------- ----------- Total Stockholders' Equity 6,694,040 5,901,294 ----------- ----------- Total Liabilities & Equity $91,332,909 $77,086,062 =========== ===========
CHINO COMMERCIAL BANK STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
For the For the Three months ending Year ending December 31, December 31, --------------------- --------------------- 2005 2004 2005 2004 --------- --------- --------- --------- (unaudited) (unaudited) Interest Income Interest Income - Securities $ 277,341 $ 233,873 $ 985,773 $ 777,001 Interest Income - Fed Funds 123,700 43,746 386,707 138,011 Interest and fee income on Loans 781,875 587,188 2,888,186 2,170,806 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total Interest Income 1,182,916 864,807 4,260,666 3,085,818 ---------- --------- --------- --------- Interest Expense Interest Expense - Deposits 79,605 48,035 259,595 171,566 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total Interest Expense 79,605 48,035 259,595 171,566 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total net interest income 1,103,311 816,772 4,001,071 2,914,252 --------- --------- --------- --------- Provision for loan losses 42,500 48,094 137,093 77,648 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total net interest income after provision for loan losses 1,060,811 768,678 3,863,978 2,836,604 --------- --------- --------- --------- Non-interest income Service Charges on Deposit Accounts 115,002 120,601 461,678 429,622 Other miscellaneous fee income 3,309 (2,295) 9,476 1,993 Income from Mortgage Banking -- 12,273 17,697 66,207 Income from Bank owned life insurance 16,434 16,313 64,421 59,687 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total Non-interest income 134,745 146,892 553,272 557,509 --------- --------- --------- --------- General & Administrative Expenses Salaries & Benefits 385,900 326,003 1,451,897 1,234,509 Occupancy & Equipment 69,245 65,979 263,418 254,320 Data & Item Processing 60,881 47,536 223,603 191,533 Advertising & Marketing 34,154 14,105 127,944 77,639 Audit & Professional fees 30,895 38,558 163,546 172,185 Insurance 6,197 6,012 24,198 23,106 Directors' fees and expenses 21,187 17,590 78,249 66,034 Other expenses 144,791 126,853 632,603 457,078 --------- --------- --------- --------- Total general & administrative expenses 753,250 642,636 2,965,458 2,476,404 --------- --------- --------- ---------
Income before income tax expense 442,306 272,934 1,451,792 917,709 Income tax expense 173,640 102,749 566,619 336,328 --------- --------- --------- --------- Net income $ 268,666 $ 170,185 $ 885,173 $ 581,381 ========= ========= ========= ========= Basic Earnings per share $ 0.33 $ 0.21 $ 1.08 $ 0.71 ========= ========= ========= ========= Diluted Earnings per share $ 0.30 $ 0.19 $ 1.00 $ 0.66 ========= ========= ========= =========
CHINO COMMERCIAL BANK Selected Financial Highlights
For the For the Three months ended Year ended December 31, December 31, -------------------- -------------------- 2005 2004 2005 2004 ---------- -------- --------- --------- Selected Operating Data: Net interest income $1,103,311 816,772 4,001,071 2,914,252 Provision for loan losses 42,500 48,094 137,093 77,648 Non-interest income 134,745 146,892 553,272 557,509 Non-interest expense 753,250 642,636 2,965,458 2,476,404 Net income $ 268,666 170,185 885,173 581,381 Share Data: Basic income per share $ 0.33 0.19 1.08 0.71 Diluted Income per share $ 0.30 0.18 1.00 0.66 Weighted average common shares outstanding Basic 818,453 818,453 818,453 818,453 Diluted 884,444 883,672 884,212 881,338
Performance Ratios: Return on average assets 1.19% 0.89% 1.05% 0.82% Return on average equity 16.27% 11.54% 14.03% 10.26% Equity to total assets at the end of the period 7.33% 7.66% 7.33% 7.66% Net interest spread 4.24% 3.64% 4.04% 3.49% Net interest margin 5.32% 4.66% 5.13% 4.48% Average interest-earning assets to average- bearing liabilities 384.62% 477.83% 428.44% 473.56% Core efficiency ratio 60.82% 66.70% 65.11% 71.31% Non-interest expense to average assets 3.34% 3.37% 3.51% 3.50%
Selected Balance Sheet Data: 12/31/2005 12/31/2004
Total assets $91,332,909 77,086,062 Investment securities held to maturity 5,850,687 4,801,024 Investment securities available for sale 16,311,377 15,562,826 Loan receivable, net 41,806,807 34,397,314 Deposits 84,021,943 70,741,132 Non-interest bearing deposits 62,610,963 56,112,375 Stockholders' equity $ 6,694,040 5,901,294
Regulatory capital ratios:
Average equity to average assets 7.46% 8.00% Leverage capital 7.54% 8.36% Tier I risk based 12.14% 13.80% Risk-based capital 13.21% 14.81%
Asset Quality Ratios: Allowance for loan losses as a percent of gross loans receivable 1.28% 1.17% Net charge-offs to average loans n/a n/a Non-performing loans to total loans n/a n/a
Number of full-service customer facilities 1 1
CONTACT: Chino Commercial Bank, N.A. Dann H. Bowman, President and CEO Jo Anne Painter, Executive Vice President and CFO (909) 393-8880
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Oliver Wong - 23 Jan 2006 19:12 GMT > hi, > ivebeen pulling my hair our on this for a while now. I receive a string [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > <string> [long example string snipped]
> </string> You could just surround the entire string with <pre> and </pre>, and forget about all your calls to replaceAll().
data_body = "<pre>" + data_body + "</pre>";
- Oliver
questionmarc420@msn.com - 23 Jan 2006 19:20 GMT i'd like to but unforutnaly i need the text to go the full length of the page when minimized or maximized. in doing what us uggested it would always be the same minimized or maximized.
Oliver Wong - 23 Jan 2006 20:09 GMT > i'd like to but unforutnaly i need the text to go the full length of > the page when minimized or maximized. in doing what us uggested it > would always be the same minimized or maximized. Your code, which looks like:
data_body = data_body.replaceAll("\n ","<br><br>");
will also prevent the text from spanning the entire width of the page.
- Oliver
questionmarc420@msn.com - 23 Jan 2006 21:02 GMT no. youre wrong wong
Roedy Green - 23 Jan 2006 21:05 GMT >no. youre wrong wong You are correct in that he is wrong, but it behooves you to point out the error and the correction.
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questionmarc420@msn.com - 23 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT two wrongs don't make a right. please don't post unless it has something to do wiht original post
Luc The Perverse - 23 Jan 2006 21:38 GMT > two wrongs don't make a right. > please don't post unless it has something to do wiht original post Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please.
1. Using proper grammer/spelling helps everyone to understand your point/makes you look less dumb (the latter point should be of particular interest to you) 2. Please quote who and what you are replying to - this way people will know what you are talking about, without having to backtrack. Proper quoting greatly reduces your chances of being plonked (blocked) by the people who want to help you. 3. Please stop being a dick. This is a forum of people - if you need slaves, consider hiring out people in a 3rd world country. You are not the king of the thread, NG, etc - and if people with an established reputation want the thread to drift then that's their prerogative. 4. Notice your hypocrisy in posting an off topic post in the thread. 5. Please consider the conversation - you said "You are wrong wrong wrong" or something similar with an incrediblely dense collection of english mistakes as your posts normally contain. You were kindly asked, by someone who probably had a genuine interest to help, to explain how this person was wrong - and what the right answer is since you obviously know it.
You started getting on my bad side with the "no. youre wrong wong" gibberish. A perfectly acceptable reply would have had an attribution, quote and then stated that you tried this, listed your result and explained the deviation from your expectation. You obviously want the thread to stay on topic, but your trollish tendencies seem to be making that difficult.
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:) Babu Kalakrishnan - 24 Jan 2006 18:12 GMT > Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please. Hmm....
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> 3. Please stop being a dick. This is a forum of people - if you need > slaves, consider hiring out people in a 3rd world country. And I suppose a remark that terms people from "third world countries" as "slaves" is very PROPER usenet behaviour ..
Ever heard something on the lines "Pot.. kettle.. black..." ?
BK
Luc The Perverse - 24 Jan 2006 23:16 GMT >> Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ever heard something on the lines "Pot.. kettle.. black..." ? Sorry - what I meant was that if you offer someone about 3-10 times their normal wages they will typically be eager to be at your service. It was my impression that he could not afford to do this with most Java programmers in a developed country.
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:) Michael Redlich - 25 Jan 2006 13:04 GMT > Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please.
> 3. Please stop being a dick. This is a forum of people - if you need > slaves, consider hiring out people in a 3rd world country. You are not the > king of the thread, NG, etc - and if people with an established reputation > want the thread to drift then that's their prerogative. I believe that watching your use of language should be included in your list, eh??
Talk about hypocrisy...
Mike.
Luc The Perverse - 25 Jan 2006 20:23 GMT >> Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Talk about hypocrisy... ^^
Appearantly I pissed everyone off - sorry about that.
But am I the only one that finds it offensive for someone to march into a group, post a question and expect everyone in the group to bend over backwards for them?
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:) questionmarc420@msn.com - 25 Jan 2006 20:28 GMT no but u might be the only one who thinks i expected anyone to bend over backwards for me.
Luc The Perverse - 25 Jan 2006 20:49 GMT > no but u might be the only one who thinks i expected anyone to bend > over backwards for me. no you are wrong wrong - and two wrongs don't make a right - so I suppose it would just be better if everyone would focus their efforts on answering the original question.
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:) Chris Uppal - 25 Jan 2006 20:47 GMT > But am I the only one that finds it offensive for someone to march into a > group, post a question and expect everyone in the group to bend over > backwards for them? Not in the least.
But for me questionmarc420@msn.com is just another Google-powered looser. They proliferate like malaria parasites and have about as much willingness to learn the norms of the communities they are invading[*], or even just to behave with ordinary courtesy.
There are too many of them, and there is nothing to be done but ignore them or give up Usenet altogether.
-- chris
[*] There are some important exceptions, of course.
Luc The Perverse - 25 Jan 2006 20:55 GMT >> But am I the only one that finds it offensive for someone to march into a >> group, post a question and expect everyone in the group to bend over [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > [*] There are some important exceptions, of course. I hadn't thought of it that way - perhaps I should start ignoring, one killfile at a time!
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:) Oliver Wong - 25 Jan 2006 21:05 GMT >>> Yes - lets talk about acceptable usenet behavior for a second please. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Appearantly I pissed everyone off - sorry about that. I didn't think you had any malicious intent when you wrote the above, so it didn't bother me.
> But am I the only one that finds it offensive for someone to march into a > group, post a question and expect everyone in the group to bend over > backwards for them? Maybe you get offended too easily. =) It's an unmoderated newsgroup, so anyone is free to make posts demanding anything they want, and we are free to either follow those demands (as I initially tried), or ignore them (as many others have done), or make posts explaining to that first person that they shouldn't be so demanding (as you have done), etc.
I was trying to help questionmarc420 out, but it quickly became apparently that I was giving out bad or incorrect advice, so I figured I'd better shut up and not cause any more harm, right? ;)
questionmarc420 asked (told?) people not to reply to this thread unless it had some relevance to the original topic. I obeyed this request for a while and didn't post anything new, but now I've changed my mind and replied to the thread in the form of the post you are reading right now. And this post doesn't have much to do with the original post of this thread.
On the chance that questionmarc420 doesn't get satisfactory help to his/her initial problem and can't figure out why, (s)he may be interested in reading this:
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/newsgroups.html#GIFTHORSE
- Oliver
morc - 25 Jan 2006 21:12 GMT thank you wong. I had no mailcious intent. And im happy the person who i was accused of being offensive too doesn't think so either. i think most of you guys should calm down. It woulda probably been easier to ignore this then too start a flamefest.
Luc The Perverse - 26 Jan 2006 00:51 GMT > thank you wong. I had no mailcious intent. And im happy the person who > i was accused of being offensive too doesn't think so either. > i think most of you guys should calm down. It woulda probably been > easier to ignore this then too start a flamefest. My usenet history is alt.games.* and I have affiliated myself in the past with online organizations whose primary purpose is trolling, flaming and hostile group take overs - these usenet armies would "Attack" an enemy group by posting hundreds and hundreds of posts of useless drivel.
I have tried to take myself down - but I do have the occassional knee jerk reaction. I realize comp.* is not alt.* and try to act [more] appropriately. But I can't stop being me - and wouldn't want to anyway.
Seriously I was trying to give you some advice - and chose the wrong method of delivery. You didn't "offend" me - and I certainly hope you didn't take anything I said too seriously.
Although I really would appreciate it if you would start quoting - if you don't know what this means, or how to do it we would be more than happy to help you.
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:) Michael Redlich - 26 Jan 2006 01:59 GMT > Appearantly I pissed everyone off - sorry about that. > > But am I the only one that finds it offensive for someone to march into a > group, post a question and expect everyone in the group to bend over > backwards for them? Luc:
To be quite honest, I didn't find that questionmarc420 was expecting everyone to drop what they were doing to help him. I will say that his post was a bit long-winded, but there seemed to be a significant effort on his part to solve the problem.
What really burns my butt (other than a three-foot high flame) are all those students that procrastinate with their computing projects, and post desperate cries for help as the deadline draws near. Did you happen to see the thread where a student was offering 30 pounds to complete his project? Amazing...
Anywho, what's done is done, and the time has come to move forward! What's cool about groups like this is the fact that it's a place to share experiences, knowledge, and skills. That's what it's all about!
I had my growing pains with these groups as well. Early last month, I posted an announcement about an upcoming Java Users Group event, and it apparently irked a few people. One person in particular thought it would be *cute* to be a wise guy. I was even being accused of being a spammer. I would have appreciated a tactful response saying that I shouldn't be doing that. As a result, I responded in a negative way as well, and it got a bit ugly. It turns out that the person who started the whole mess is actually quite talented, and has some intelligence, but he could have fooled me with his initial response. You know what they say about first impressions...
Mike.
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Roedy Green - 26 Jan 2006 03:00 GMT >I was even being accused of being a >spammer. I got accused of this too for answering the question on a subject line instead of the one buried in one of the posts in the thread. I suspect "spammer" is becoming the geek word for "mutherfucker". It is not meant to be taken literally any more than "mutherfucker" is.
Either that, or people are stupid to use a word they don't know meaning of.
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Michael Redlich - 26 Jan 2006 03:56 GMT > I got accused of this too for answering the question on a subject line > instead of the one buried in one of the posts in the thread. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Either that, or people are stupid to use a word they don't know > meaning of. Hi Roedy:
I was very surprised at how many people would consider posting a Java User Group meeting announcement as "spam." There was some discussion about this on "Programmer's Avenue" recently.
I realize that these groups are global, but if I happen to see an announcement about a Java User Group meeting in, say, Seattle, Washington, and I'm sitting in New Jersey, my reaction would simply be, "Well, it would be nice to attend this one, but..." One would think that Java developers would appreciate hearing about this kind of stuff...
Oh well, maybe I'm just from the "old school."
Anywho, I've been meaning to tell you how much I like your web site. It's an excellent resource, and I've noticed that you can answer questions simply by pointing to a section of your web site. Cool!
Sincerely,
Mike.
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Roedy Green - 26 Jan 2006 05:26 GMT > I've noticed that you can answer >questions simply by pointing to a section of your web site. Cool! Much of the time that is an illusion. I compose an answer, post it to the website, then point to it, making it look as if the answers to all questions were preexisting. see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/author.html for my essay on this sort of magic.
I figure that is the best way of preparing content that people actually want to read.
What is amusing is sometimes people berate me for my laziness in posting links. It takes quite a bit more work to prepare an answer for the website in nicely formatted HTML, proofread, and knowing this is not just a one-shot response, but a public announcement for possibly years to come, that will be read outside the context of the thread that sparked it and by a wider audience than is involved in a thread, that needs use a variety of vocabulary to let people find it by Google, containing answers to related questions...
Even when a link is pre-existing, I often freshen it before posting the link to bring it up to date, fix broken links etc.
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javabuddha@gmail.com - 26 Jan 2006 17:37 GMT I think it's a great that you have ready polished answers stored at your site. It's more work, but a lot more useful as future references. I just started a site where I hope that everyone could do the same at:
http://www.suckingfish.com/viewTag.do?tags=java
I am hoping with more people contributing, the answers could get polished and improved through time. So far the concept is working out fairly well, if you type in "learning lucene" in Google, one of the topics is actually the first link. However, as you know, these answers and links take time to compose so it's still a question mark on how many people would spend the time to do so.
Matt
> > I've noticed that you can answer > >questions simply by pointing to a section of your web site. Cool! [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. > http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching. questionmarc420@msn.com - 24 Jan 2006 20:01 GMT >please don't post unless it has something to do wiht original post Roedy Green - 24 Jan 2006 22:38 GMT >>please don't post unless it has something to do wiht original post Don't be silly. The best you can hope for is tenuous relevant to post quted. Topic drift is inevitable.
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Thomas Weidenfeller - 25 Jan 2006 08:21 GMT > two wrongs don't make a right. > please don't post unless it has something to do wiht original post Who are you to tell us?
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