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rob_hendrickx@hotmail.com - 28 Dec 2005 11:28 GMT

Hello everyone,

I've got a question about the usage of Eclipse. I'm planning to start
developing commercial applications for small businesses with Eclipse.
Do these applications fall under the open source license or can I
protect my own code?
Is there anyone who has a clear answer?

Thanks in advance

Rob Hendrickx

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largesse@netian.com - 28 Dec 2005 12:10 GMT

I didn't think so.
it's just Intergrated Development Environment.
just edior like notepad,,
Java compile your source code.
I know a lot of ediors has the open source license.
if i use those, is it non commercial applications?
I don't think so. no problem..

you've got the license your code, when you write your first line down.

I've been using the Eclipse for my commecial application.
and I sale it.

thank for reading... I mean,, english is very hard to me.. ^^;

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Alun Harford - 28 Dec 2005 20:44 GMT

> Hello everyone,
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> protect my own code?
> Is there anyone who has a clear answer?

Does the guy who makes your notepaper own your notes?
I'm not aware of any country with crazy law like that, but since you don't
state where you are, nobody is going to be able to give you much advice on
this matter.

Alun Harford

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Edwin Martin - 28 Dec 2005 21:33 GMT

> I've got a question about the usage of Eclipse. I'm planning to start
> developing commercial applications for small businesses with Eclipse.
> Do these applications fall under the open source license or can I
> protect my own code?
> Is there anyone who has a clear answer?

You can certainly make commercial software with Eclipse en make your own
license.

But be carefull with adding libraries to (using libraries in) your
software which are not your own (like SWT). Always read the license of
such libraries.

Edwin Martin

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iamfractal@hotmail.com - 29 Dec 2005 08:53 GMT

The Eclipse license is unusal in that it's almost - almost - readable
by the average Joe/Jane/Laurence.

http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/epl-v10.php

IANAL but:

It doesn't mention products developed using the tool; only
contributions to the Eclipse source code and derivations of that source
code; so you enter into no agreement about the nature of your developed
products when you use Eclipse - you can do whatever you want with them
as long as you don't try to deliver Eclipse along with them.

Also, the Eclipse license is only valid in the U.S., so even if they
did force your products to be open source, this only carries weight if
you're in the U.S.; you're safe in Belgium.

.ed

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Edwin Martin - 29 Dec 2005 19:05 GMT

> [...]
> Also, the Eclipse license is only valid in the U.S., so even if they
> did force your products to be open source, this only carries weight if
> you're in the U.S.; you're safe in Belgium.

I'm sure you're wrong. (And I'm glad you are).

If the license is only valid in the US, then the permission to use the
software (which is in the license) would also be only valid in the US.
(In most countries, you're not allowed to use software from somebody
else without [implied] permission).

Edwin Martin

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iamfractal@hotmail.com - 30 Dec 2005 08:21 GMT

Edwin Martin skrev:

> > [...]
> > Also, the Eclipse license is only valid in the U.S., so even if they
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Yeah, good point.

That, "Implied," looks like a lawyer's best Christmas present.

I really don't know how to interpret legal documents; I should have
just said, "Here's a quote from the licence:
This Agreement is governed by the laws of the State of New York and the
intellectual property laws of the United States of America."

And let the OP interpret for himself.

.ed

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pkriens - 29 Dec 2005 09:56 GMT

All Eclipse source code and binaries are delivered under the Eclipse
Public License. This is one of the most liberal open source licenses in
existence. The only obligation is to keep the licenses in the sources
when you make changes. They like to see any changes you make, but that
is not a very hard requirement. This is ONLY for the files you change.
Additional files are yours and you can do whatever you want.

http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html

The binaries are freely redistributable. Look for RCP when you want to
develop Eclipse based products.

Kind regards,

Peter Kriens

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Rob - 29 Dec 2005 11:24 GMT

Thanks a lot for your replies. I'm convinced now that I can do with my
programs whatever I want to do.

THANKS!!!

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