Tragic.   I'm glad the "You're going down Bucko" person didn't do that - as
I found that quite entertaining.   .

Skill?    You seem to have the ability to form cogent arguments.   The
problem is not skill, it is apathy on the part of the public.  People who
wish to identify problems in our environment have already done so.

Mark Twain entertained and challenged people's beliefs, but when they were
done they just put it out of mind - as always happens.  If it is his level
of success that you are trying to acheive, then I believe you are likely
already there.

I used to try to be a crusader - but it eventually came to my attention that
people don't like to think about their beliefs.  I consistantly make the
mistake of believing that other people think in the same manner that I do.

It became very frustrating back in my first year of college.  This
situtation [that I'm about to describe] probably happened about half a dozen
times.   I would be arguing/debating with a girl about a subject, and I
would slowly get her to agree with each of my points one at a time.  Then
when I had all the ingredients for a logical deduction from the points that
she had just conceded, I would lay it out and get nearly verbatum the same
response every time "You're just arguing in circles."  Whatever the hell
that means! (I'm not trying to single out the female sex, in general the
reason I engaged females in arguments much more often is simply a matter of
the people with whom I chose to have any sort of conversation.)

I don't think there's a way to save people - they have to want to save
themselves.  Adversity and hardship are what make people strong and into
crusaders.  But look where we live!  North America (I consider Mexico as
Central America) has as thriving an economy as most - everywhere you look
it's material items, high paying jobs.

I'm just blabbing - I don't even know what I'm trying to say.

Just a rant I suppose.   People bug me.   I burnt myself out trying to fight
the state intiative banning gay marriage.  People are just insanely
ridiculous about it.