Java Forum / General / December 2005
Obfuscator
JohnIGrant - 23 Dec 2005 03:30 GMT What obfuscators handle 1.5? Any comparisons of obfuscators out there?
Thanks John
SamProvencal - 23 Dec 2005 03:44 GMT DashO Java obfuscator http://www.preemptive.com/products/dasho works well for my apps.
Sam
javaobfuscator@yahoo.com - 25 Dec 2005 03:36 GMT A Java Obfuscator should offer maximum protection against reverse engineering, as this is the main reason to buy an obfuscator. The obfuscator should rename Packages, Classes, Methods and Fields using aggressive obfuscator techniques The obfuscator should stop decompilers from producing usable results The obfuscator should use Advanced Control Flow Obfuscation String Encryption features should be included with the obfuscator Software watermarking is a feature offered by some obfuscator tools to help track piracy
An obfuscator can improve code efficiency. Look for the obfuscator to provide Class and method level optimization to improve JIT performance. The obfuscator should also have Unused Class/Method/Field and constant pool entry removal. An obfuscator can also provide dynamically-loaded class (forname) detection
Professional obfuscator models can support efficient Java code development and deployment. The obfuscator should versions up to 1.5. An obfuscator should provide Incremental Obfuscation An obfuscator should provide Automated Stack Trace Translation An obfuscator should provide Packaging into directories or jars An obfuscator should support packaging any type of Java - applications, libraries, applets, servlets, EJBs, etc. An obfuscator should support fJ2ME CLDC based profiles An obfuscator should recognize CLDC pre-verified library classes Obfuscator output should retain 100% pure Java and passes verifiers Obfuscator control should include command-line interface suitable for integrating into build environments. The obfuscator should include a comprehensive User's Guide The obfuscator should support for Generic Types and Methods The obfuscator should provide granular configuration.
javaobfuscator@yahoo.com - 25 Dec 2005 03:55 GMT A Java Obfuscator should offer maximum protection against reverse engineering, as this is the main reason to buy an obfuscator. The obfuscator should rename Packages, Classes, Methods and Fields using aggressive obfuscator techniques The obfuscator should stop decompilers from producing usable results The obfuscator should use Advanced Control Flow Obfuscation String Encryption features should be included with the obfuscator Software watermarking is a feature offered by some obfuscator tools to help track piracy
An obfuscator can improve code efficiency. Look for the obfuscator to provide Class and method level optimization to improve JIT performance. The obfuscator should also have Unused Class/Method/Field and constant pool entry removal. An obfuscator can also provide dynamically-loaded class (forname) detection
Professional obfuscator models can support efficient Java code development and deployment. The obfuscator should versions up to 1.5. An obfuscator should provide Incremental Obfuscation An obfuscator should provide Automated Stack Trace Translation An obfuscator should provide Packaging into directories or jars An obfuscator should support packaging any type of Java - applications, libraries, applets, servlets, EJBs, etc. An obfuscator should support fJ2ME CLDC based profiles An obfuscator should recognize CLDC pre-verified library classes Obfuscator output should retain 100% pure Java and passes verifiers Obfuscator control should include command-line interface suitable for integrating into build environments. The obfuscator should include a comprehensive User's Guide The obfuscator should support for Generic Types and Methods The obfuscator should provide granular configuration. The DashO java obfuscator http://www.preemptive.com is a reasonable choice as they focus on obfuscators
Luc The Perverse - 25 Dec 2005 05:38 GMT >A Java Obfuscator should offer maximum protection against reverse > engineering, as this is the main reason to buy an obfuscator. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > The DashO java obfuscator http://www.preemptive.com is a reasonable > choice as they focus on obfuscators Spam?
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:) Stefan Ram - 25 Dec 2005 06:01 GMT >>The obfuscator should provide granular configuration. >>The DashO java obfuscator http://www.p(...)tive.com is a reasonable >>choice as they focus on obfuscators >Spam? There is no need to completely quote advertisements (unless you would get paid by the advertisers to do so).
I would not have seen this message at all, if you would not have quoted it, because my message filter had suppressed it.
Dave Glasser - 25 Dec 2005 17:54 GMT `"Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@cc.usu.edu> wrote on Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:38:00 -0700 in comp.lang.java.programmer:
>Spam? If you look at the headers on the original post, you'll see this:
Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.40.252.183; posting-account=Tt-DIg0AAACUPbBpGjHTEvj2F_15rk5U
And in the headers of the two followups that came along in minutes, you'll see:
Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.40.252.183; posting-account=frIB1A0AAACdf_8g6USvS1A7aN5GX0sA
from "samprovencal@yahoo.com", and
Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.40.252.183; posting-account=7-pGhA0AAAAR2W065rHUrGOblwO8QYZN
from "javaobfuscator@yahoo.com". The interesting thing is that they all contain this:
posting-host=69.40.252.183
which suggests that they all three originated from the same machine. So it looks like the two followups were sockpuppets on the hand of "johnigrant@yahoo.com".
Personally, I don't think it would have been out of line if the guy just posted an announcement for his product. It is on-topic, after all.
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Joan - 27 Dec 2005 17:45 GMT "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message news:43ae304a$0$7789 <snip>
>> An obfuscator can improve code efficiency. Look for the >> obfuscator to>> choice as they focus on obfuscators > > Spam? I just read that in South Korea the folks like spam (the one in the tin.) When we were poor (long time ago) we used to get a meat product that resembled spam, but was much less tastey.
> -- > LTP > > :) Luc The Perverse - 27 Dec 2005 19:18 GMT > "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@cc.usu.edu> wrote in message > news:43ae304a$0$7789 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > When we were poor (long time ago) we used to get a meat product that > resembled spam, but was much less tastey. I think society's public sentiment against spam led to the invention of a new word, an acronym for unwanted advertising. The original acronym has been all but lost but the word itself persists!
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:) Roedy Green - 28 Dec 2005 08:08 GMT On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:18:55 -0700, "Luc The Perverse" <sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m@cc.usu.edu> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>I think society's public sentiment against spam led to the invention of a >new word, an acronym for unwanted advertising. The original acronym has >been all but lost but the word itself persists! SPAM was originally canned ham. It is popular in Samoa. Monty Python did a sketch about it where everything on the menu contains spam. That lead to its metaphorical use as something ubiquitous you can't get away from.
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Andrew Thompson - 28 Dec 2005 10:58 GMT > SPAM was originally canned ham. No. Canned ham is *not* canned SPiced hAM.
>..It is popular in Samoa. I don't mind it here, either.
Recently*, the English company that coined the word successfully stopped anti-spam software being released with the word spam in the name.
* ..last year, or so?
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Gordon Beaton - 28 Dec 2005 12:22 GMT > Recently*, the English company that coined the word > successfully stopped anti-spam software being released > with the word spam in the name. Apparently Hormel has failed in its attempt to stop Spam Arrest:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/03/hormel_spam_campaign/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/31/spam_ruling/
However maybe you were thinking of this, where a self admitted spammer tried to launch a line of "spam king" clothing:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/17/spam_king_roasting/
IANAL, but was under the impression that tradmarks were registered in various specific categories, and that infringement could only occur if there was a distinct possibility (or intent) of confusion between the offendor and the original, which to me hardly seems likely between a "meat" product and computer software or services.
Quoting from the first Register article above:
"When even legislation (e.g. the CAN-SPAM Act) uses the word spam as a generic term for unsolicited commercial email it is time to concede that a meaning, whether desirable or not, has become ingrained in the language."
/gordon
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