mcafee on-access scan slows Java (a lot)

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timasmith@hotmail.com - 19 Dec 2005 00:47 GMT

Hi,

I am sooo frustrated. We have McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.1 and the
on-access scan brings Java applications (including eclipse) to their
needs - seems to scan all the jar files.

What a disaster - I have to disable it everytime I want to run a java
program - and of course it auto enables itself after 5 minutes or so.

Is there anything I can do?

I can hardly ask my less techy users to disable it temporary to run
programs... ugh...

Tim

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Roedy Green - 19 Dec 2005 02:09 GMT

>I am sooo frustrated. We have McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 7.1 and the
>on-access scan brings Java applications (including eclipse) to their
>needs - seems to scan all the jar files.

I have used a number of virus scanners, but not McAffee. If you dig
in the options you should be able to control which extensions it
scans. Turn off *.jar.
You also could set it up just do nightly scans instead every time a
program runs.

If you don't use floppies others have used, and you don't use IE, and
you don't use Outlook and you don't open email enclosures viruses,
will not get you. They may exist in email attachments, but they will
do no harm.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/virus.html

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"." - 20 Dec 2005 22:01 GMT

> Hi,
>
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> I can hardly ask my less techy users to disable it temporary to run
> programs... ugh...

Talk to McAfee and see what they have to say. If they don't have a
solution then suggest switching to Norton. Hopefully there is a filter to
the scan. Then you can add *.jar to the list of files not to scan.

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Luc The Perverse - 20 Dec 2005 23:06 GMT

>> Hi,
>>
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> solution then suggest switching to Norton. Hopefully there is a filter to
> the scan. Then you can add *.jar to the list of files not to scan.

WHOA! Hold on a minute.

I hope you are not suggesting switching from ANYTHING to Norton to speed
things up.

Norton is one of the most bloated and slow virus scanners in existence.

PC-Cillian is pretty good about performance/support etc.

Read this antivirus comparison article
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1260/

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Alex Buell - 20 Dec 2005 23:12 GMT

> > Hi,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> solution then suggest switching to Norton. Hopefully there is a filter to
> the scan. Then you can add *.jar to the list of files not to scan.

Under no circumstances change to Norton; they are sh.t, pure and
simple. Sophos are my favourite enterprise AV, and for personal use,
I'd suggest AVG from Grisoft (http://www.free.grisoft.com)

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Roedy Green - 21 Dec 2005 01:22 GMT

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:12:04 +0000, Alex Buell
<alex.buell@munted.org.uk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>I'd suggest AVG from Grisoft (http://www.free.grisoft.com)

it that chart it was the slowest.

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Alex Buell - 21 Dec 2005 01:29 GMT

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:22:14 GMT Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> waved a wand and this
message magically appeared:

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:12:04 +0000, Alex Buell
> <alex.buell@munted.org.uk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> who said :
>
> >I'd suggest AVG from Grisoft (http://www.free.grisoft.com)

> it that chart it was the slowest.

You're not making any sense, can you ease up on whatever you're on?

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Luc The Perverse - 21 Dec 2005 04:04 GMT

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:22:14 GMT Roedy Green
> <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> waved a wand and this
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> You're not making any sense, can you ease up on whatever you're on?

He means that AVG is slower than/as slow as Norton, which is slower than
McAfee - none of which might be a problem, if the original poster's issue
weren't an issue of speed :)

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Roedy Green - 21 Dec 2005 07:47 GMT

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:29:04 +0000, Alex Buell
<alex.buell@munted.org.uk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>> >I'd suggest AVG from Grisoft (http://www.free.grisoft.com)
>
>> it that chart it was the slowest.
>
>You're not making any sense, can you ease up on whatever you're on?

If you are having trouble understanding, perhaps it is YOU with the
drug problem slowing your thinking

If you needed clarification, you could simply have just asked without
the gratuitous insult.

But SCREW YOU. I won't ever help you again, not even to explain the
reference to "that chart".

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Alex Buell - 21 Dec 2005 08:54 GMT

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:47:39 GMT Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> waved a wand and this
message magically appeared:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:29:04 +0000, Alex Buell
> <alex.buell@munted.org.uk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> But SCREW YOU. I won't ever help you again, not even to explain the
> reference to "that chart".

Ouch. I only meant it as a joke and I do apologise for that.

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Luc The Perverse - 21 Dec 2005 02:03 GMT

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:12:04 +0000, Alex Buell
> <alex.buell@munted.org.uk> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
> who said :
>
>>I'd suggest AVG from Grisoft (http://www.free.grisoft.com)
> it that chart it was the slowest.

The price is nice though :)

I don't like virus scanners at all. I don't use any because in general I
don't need them.

Occassionally I use the only panda virus scanner
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm for sh.ts and giggles.
It always comes back as no infections.

If my brother comes over and uses my computer I boot up into knoppix and
scan windows from Linux. If I find anything then I reformat and start over
(I haven't had to do this since I encrypted my hard drive, I don't know if
there is a version of Knoppix that works with Compusec)

I simply don't have valuable information that cannot be replaced. I have no
reason for hackers to target me and I don't foolishly go around opening EXE
files. I keep windows patched and consider myself reasonably secure.
Maybe someday my system will be compromised and I will change my mind, but
for the most part I don't believe that a virus scanner protects against that
anyway.

Just my two cents.

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