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SimpleORB now available for VW Smalltalk, java and C#

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frankgerlach22@gmx.de - 23 Nov 2005 20:48 GMT
SimpleORB is a simple Object Request Broker for  VisualWorks
Smalltalk, java and C#. It uses a simple but powerful serialization
library for data marshalling. Because this is not a CORBA server, it
is quite small (about 150kByte for all languages together).
There exists a Wikipedia entry with a simple Helloworld application:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimpleORB
Performance is ca. 500 calls/s with java client and Smalltalk server.
1600 calls/s with java client and java server and 1660 calls/s with C#
client and server (all on 1.8 GHz Athlon).
Download it from http://fgerlach.com/SimpleORBall.tar.gz
Roedy Green - 23 Nov 2005 21:26 GMT
On 23 Nov 2005 12:48:06 -0800, "frankgerlach22@gmx.de"
<frankgerlach@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

> SimpleORB is a simple Object Request Broker

It is always a good idea to put a sentence or two in such an
announcement about what the product is for so people not familiar with
the jargon can determine if it might be something they can
investigate.
.
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frankgerlach22@gmx.de - 23 Nov 2005 22:17 GMT
An Object Request Broker (ORB) can be used to create a distributed
(often called client/server) application. An ORB provides the means to
perform method calls from one process to another (potentially on
another machine somewhere in the network). This means that a remote
object can be called, with all call parameters being transmitted over
the network and the results being transmitted back to the calling
process. This is often called "marshalling" or "serialization".
Popular ORBs are the CORBA-type systems, DCOM or RMI.
(Hopefully this explanation addresses the previous posting...)
frankgerlach@gmail.com - 23 Nov 2005 22:23 GMT
For a definition of "ORB", wikipedia might be consulted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Request_Broker
Bob Powell [MVP] - 23 Nov 2005 22:36 GMT
Thanks. You might like to prefix your subject with ANN: for announcing.

Some people like to filter these out if they are spam haters. Personally I
like to see announcements of useful things.

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> An Object Request Broker (ORB) can be used to create a distributed
> (often called client/server) application. An ORB provides the means to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Popular ORBs are the CORBA-type systems, DCOM or RMI.
> (Hopefully this explanation addresses the previous posting...)
Roedy Green - 23 Nov 2005 23:20 GMT
On 23 Nov 2005 14:17:32 -0800, "frankgerlach22@gmx.de"
<frankgerlach@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone
who said :

>An Object Request Broker (ORB) can be used to create a distributed
>(often called client/server) application. An ORB provides the means to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>process. This is often called "marshalling" or "serialization".
>Popular ORBs are the CORBA-type systems, DCOM or RMI.

And why would someone want your ORB in preference to RMI?  What is its
niche?
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frankgerlach@gmail.com - 23 Nov 2005 23:31 GMT
Ok, I have to improve in the marketing department :-))
SimpleORB is
-cross-plaform, cross language (like CORBA, unlike DCOM and RMI)
-simple (no IDL, no IDL compiler runs)
-small (no stubs, no skeletons, small runtime lib (150kBytes))
-powerful (arbitrary object graphs marshalled, like RMI, unlike CORBA)
-fast (unlike SOAP)
-free
frankgerlach@gmail.com - 23 Nov 2005 23:48 GMT
Maybe some of the RMI expets can post some performance data (I am too
tired to create an RMI benchmark this night...)
arturo.ariza@gmail.com - 24 Nov 2005 09:48 GMT
It's an interesting product and can be very useful, but you should be
careful becouse SimpleORB is not CORBA-compliant.
frankgerlach@gmail.com - 24 Nov 2005 09:51 GMT
As I stated, being not CORBA-compliant is a virtue- no need for IDL
files, no lengthy IDL compiler runs, arbitrary object graphs (not just
trees).
frankgerlach@gmail.com - 24 Nov 2005 10:42 GMT
Just ran a Helloworld program in RMI: Performance (calls/second) of RMI
is about the same as with SimpleORB.
arturo.ariza@gmail.com - 24 Nov 2005 10:56 GMT
Of course, all these qualities are a value added, but in a EAI project
is important to know that is not interopetable with CORBA systems.


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