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You may not have been able to access the main java glossary page http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html today. The Novell server somehow locked the file during an upload leaving it with 0 bytes. I could not delete, rename or upload it. Eventually the problem cleared it self. It should be working now. If you rely on the glossary as I do, you might want to download a mirror copy to handle such failures. See http://mindprod.com/webstarts/replicator.html Every time you use the JAWS app it will refresh your mirror with what has changed since your last visit. It is safe to abort at any time. It will sort itself out on your next visit. Access to the local copy is of course extremely fast and the direct links to the local Sun docs then also work. mindprod.com is pretty slow -- with a 10 MBPs connection. Thanks to increased Google AdSense revenue from increased traffic that will fund a 100 MBps connection starting some time in November. Though mindprod.com is nominally a commercial venture, it does not even generate enough revenue to pay for my own home Internet connection. It just manages to pay its own ISP bills.  SignatureCanadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching. Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? > Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? It's his newsgroup. =) SignatureOf making better designs there is no end, and much refactoring wearies the body. > It's his newsgroup. =) no it's not >>It's his newsgroup. =) > > no it's not yes it is >>>It's his newsgroup. =) >> >> no it's not > > yes it is *gosh* do you know anything about usenet? > *gosh* do you know anything about usenet? I can't tell if this is witty meta-sarcasm, or an amazing display of "not getting it". =) SignatureOf making better designs there is no end, and much refactoring wearies the body. >> *gosh* do you know anything about usenet? > > I can't tell if this is witty meta-sarcasm, or an amazing display of "not > getting it". =) no wonder :-> >>*gosh* do you know anything about usenet? > > I can't tell if this is witty meta-sarcasm, or an amazing display of "not > getting it". =) sounds more like "not getting it" to me! > sounds more like "not getting it" to me! sounds more like "not knowing how usenet works" to me! :-) >>sounds more like "not getting it" to me! > > sounds more like "not knowing how usenet works" to me! :-) still sounds like you're not getting it. we can go on like this forever! try me! > still sounds like you're not getting it. > > we can go on like this forever! > try me! No problems! Post some url's where I can read any confirmation of your sayings (real url's please...). And tell me: do you really know something about usenet? Your turn :-> >>still sounds like you're not getting it. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Your turn :-> *gosh* Benji.... Please help me out here man...you started it! this is the best i can do: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=metaphor >Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? Because the site was not working. SignatureCanadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching. >>Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? > >Because the site was not working. Ahoy, Roedy! Just lurking en passant, and couldn't resist a word of support. There should be a prize for you, if not from 10 years of Java, then from Nobel. God bless, Sandy SignatureAlexander Anderson <junk.rubbish@alma-services.abel.co.uk> (Yorkshire, England) Where there is no vision, the people perish. >Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? Oh, I dunno, maybe because so many of us in this newsgroup rely on his site, which wasn't working? Signature"Yo' ideas need to be thinked befo' they are say'd" - Ian Lamb, age 3.5 http://www.cs.queensu.ca/~dalamb/ qucis->cs to reply (it's a long story...) >>Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? > > Oh, I dunno, maybe because so many of us in this newsgroup rely on his > site, > which wasn't working? Many of us in this newsgroup rely on a plenty of sites. Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? No. > Many of us in this newsgroup rely on a plenty of sites. > Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this > newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? > No. *shrug* it doesn't hurt anybody. sun wouldn't notify the newsgroup because they don't have any interest in the newsgroup. It seems that Roedy spends a lot of his time posting here. No, it probably wasn't too useful, but it doesn't make sense to get upset about it either. an upset post is just as off-topic as a "my website is down" post. SignatureOf making better designs there is no end, and much refactoring wearies the body. > *shrug* it doesn't hurt anybody. sun wouldn't notify the newsgroup > because they don't have any interest in the newsgroup. It seems that > Roedy > spends a lot of his time posting here. So? Why should I care about Roedy's interest in this group? It's an unmoderated public newsgroup remember? > No, it probably wasn't too useful, but it doesn't make sense to get upset > about it either. an upset post is just as off-topic as a "my website is > down" post. So everyone should thus shut his mouth when others doesn't act properly??? >Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this >newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? But nobody from those sites posts links to those sites to answer questions. You can consider the site an extension to my newsgroup postings. Most entries there start out as newsgroup posting. When I answer the same question several times I polish up a response by merging some of my newsgroup answers augmented by contributions from other people and post it there. Sometimes, like the Ajax entry, it comes almost entirely from someone else's post. Then as I get feedback from more newsgroups posts I keep tweaking the post so that it becomes a generic answer to a small class of problem. You could think of the site as the edited minutes of the newsgroups. You may also recall there was discussion of a similar problem that happened at Sun a few weeks back when all the tutorial links went south. Somebody reported to the group when they were functioning again. Since I make it easy to find the Sun docs and tutorials though my index, there is a good chance my site index going south would also interfere with many people's access to the Sun material. I think the benefits of informing people overshadow the costs of irritating you with a technically off topic post. SignatureCanadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching. >>Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this >>newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? > > But nobody from those sites posts links to those sites to answer > questions. You can consider the site an extension to my newsgroup > postings. You've got your own site. And I must admit it's a nice site. But whatever you feel I still think it's not appropriate to post explicit messages about *your* site being offline in this public usenet group. > Most entries there start out as newsgroup posting. When I answer the > same question several times I polish up a response by merging some of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > index, there is a good chance my site index going south would also > interfere with many people's access to the Sun material. You don't need to tell me why / how usefull your site is. That's not the point and like I said above you *do* have a nice site. > I think the benefits of informing people overshadow the costs of > irritating you with a technically off topic post. This seems rather egocentric to me. A lot of people just don't care about your site. >You've got your own site. And I must admit it's a nice site. But whatever >you feel I still think it's not appropriate to post explicit messages about >*your* site being offline in this public usenet group. I disagree. Your motive for complaining has likely more do to with the political beliefs the other part of the site gores. SignatureCanadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching. > I disagree. Your motive for complaining has likely more do to with > the political beliefs the other part of the site gores. That's not realistic. Your posts do come off as a bit self-serving sometimes, since you always post a link to your site in every single response (sometimes it's not terribly related). But I do think you're trying to be helpful (and you are). Just realize that it can come off as that. So, don't play the political persecution card. It's not becoming. =P SignatureOf making better designs there is no end, and much refactoring wearies the body. >>>Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in >>>this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you feel I still think it's not appropriate to post explicit messages > about *your* site being offline in this public usenet group. Look mommy! There are trolls in comp.* too -- LTP :) > Many of us in this newsgroup rely on a plenty of sites. > > Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this > newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? I, for one, sure wouldn't mind someone posting a heads-up when java.sun.com is down... especially if it contains useful information on how to avoid running into problems because of it. I don't understand what you're so upset about. Roedy's trying to help people. Leave him alone. Signaturewww.designacourse.com The Easiest Way To Train Anyone... Anywhere. Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer MindIQ Corporation >> Many of us in this newsgroup rely on a plenty of sites. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I don't understand what you're so upset about. Roedy's trying to help > people. Leave him alone. I agree. Here is a link for Mr Pissed Off http://www.voidspace.org.uk/gallery/silly/html/big_cup_of_STFU.html It may annoy you to know the site may be down. -- LTP :) ... > It may annoy you to know the site may be down. LOL! Don't be silly! It would only irritate the bothered person to be told whether the link is working or not and.. (checks) at the moment that link works fine. ;-) >>>Why don't you put this information on your site instead of here??? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Should every site heavily used by us (e.g. java.sun.com) notice us in this >newsgroup that it has been offline for some time? NO, But Roody's website is akin to an FAQ for this newsgroup. I think it was very relevant. -- now with more cowbell Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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