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HTTP and HTTPS

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Tonik - 20 Oct 2005 14:17 GMT
Hello,

Does can anyone explain why  HTTP a stateless protocol and HTTPS is a
stateful protol. In my understanding they both make stateless requests
to the server. Is it that HTTPS only maintains a state for the ssl
communication but it cant be used in the web applications in any way.

Regards,

Toni Karhu
http://www.tonik.net
Roedy Green - 21 Oct 2005 00:02 GMT
>Does can anyone explain why  HTTP a stateless protocol and HTTPS is a
>stateful protol.

One piece of state for https is the key which presumably is not
renegotiated at every transaction. (Is it?).  HTTP piggybacks on
TCP/IP which does have state.
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Thomas Hawtin - 21 Oct 2005 14:11 GMT
> Does can anyone explain why  HTTP a stateless protocol and HTTPS is a
> stateful protol. In my understanding they both make stateless requests
> to the server. Is it that HTTPS only maintains a state for the ssl
> communication but it cant be used in the web applications in any way.

HTTP opens a new connection for each request. HTTPS reuses the same
connection. At least that used to be the case many years ago. These days
it's just one author copying another, possibly with some explanation
worked backwards. The distinction is irrelevant.

Tom Hawtin
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