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Roedy Green - 21 Sep 2005 04:24 GMT

I don't have access to a Mac machine, but I would like to increase the
Mac content in the Java glossary.

If you have thoughts about what I could say about Mac JRE, JDK,
Safari, or Mac Java development in general please pass them on.
Also any Mac-specific terminology.

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John B. Matthews - 21 Sep 2005 11:53 GMT

> I don't have access to a Mac machine, but I would like to increase the
> Mac content in the Java glossary.
>
> If you have thoughts about what I could say about Mac JRE, JDK,
> Safari, or Mac Java development in general please pass them on.
> Also any Mac-specific terminology.

Here are few starting point for your readers:

<http://developer.apple.com/java/>
<http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/45>
<http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/Java/java141/system_properties/c
hapter_4_section_3.html>

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Roedy Green - 21 Sep 2005 18:02 GMT

><http://developer.apple.com/java/>
><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/45>
><http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/Java/java141/system_properties/c
>hapter_4_section_3.html>

thanks. I have added that to the
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/macintosh.html entry.

I was pleased to discover the Mac people have done something to stop
novices from cherrypitting.

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Jeff Schwab - 21 Sep 2005 18:10 GMT

>><http://developer.apple.com/java/>
>><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/45>
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> thanks. I have added that to the
> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/macintosh.html entry.

MouseEvent.isPopoupTrigger() => MouseEvent.isPopupTrigger() ?

> I was pleased to discover the Mac people have done something to stop
> novices from cherrypitting.

What's "cherrypitting?"

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Roedy Green - 21 Sep 2005 21:34 GMT

>What's "cherrypitting?"

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/cherrypitting.html

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Oliver Wong - 22 Sep 2005 19:19 GMT

>>What's "cherrypitting?"
>
> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/cherrypitting.html

Wow... On the metric of "how much information about its meaning does the
term's name convey?", this is the closest to zero I've ever seen.

If I were a window manager designer, in addition to the
"minimize/maximize/restore" actions, I'd add a "center on screen" action,
which would resolve the above mentioned problem.

- Oliver

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Roedy Green - 22 Sep 2005 20:09 GMT

> If I were a window manager designer, in addition to the
>"minimize/maximize/restore" actions, I'd add a "center on screen" action,
>which would resolve the above mentioned problem.

The problem with a cherry-pitted window is there so way to invoke such
an action.

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Oliver Wong - 22 Sep 2005 20:22 GMT

>> If I were a window manager designer, in addition to the
>>"minimize/maximize/restore" actions, I'd add a "center on screen" action,
>>which would resolve the above mentioned problem.
>
> The problem with a cherry-pitted window is there so way to invoke such
> an action.

After I made the post, I had a feeling someone would bring up this issue.
So I'm imagining that there is a taskbar, and that the list of all the
windows appears on the taskbar (like in Windows XP). Thus you could right
click on the widget associated with the off-screen window, and select
"center on screen".

While I'm at it, here are other issues I feel might be brought up:

"If you can do that, then why not just maximize?"

I've had a situation where my firefox, when "restored", would be off
screen. If I maximized it, it would fill up my full screen, but the page I
was looking at it was such that it was annoying to read extremely long lines
of text, so I wanted to reduce the width of the browser window to make
reading easier. But as soon as I would un-maximize, or "restore" the window,
it would move off screen again.

"If you have a taskbar, why not just do 'Tile Windows'?"

Sometimes I have 20+ windows open, and I have them just the way I like
them, except for one of them, which happens to be off-screen. I don't want
to screw up the layout of my 19+ other windows and have to reposition them
after the "tile" operation.

- Oliver

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Roedy Green - 22 Sep 2005 21:48 GMT

> After I made the post, I had a feeling someone would bring up this issue.
>So I'm imagining that there is a taskbar, and that the list of all the
>windows appears on the taskbar (like in Windows XP). Thus you could right
>click on the widget associated with the off-screen window, and select
>"center on screen".

The problem is, the very sort of novices who cherry pit would not
understand or think to use such a tool. They would still go to an
expert for help. You have to PREVENT cherrypitting.
.

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Roedy Green - 22 Sep 2005 20:10 GMT

>> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/cherrypitting.html
>
> Wow... On the metric of "how much information about its meaning does the
>term's name convey?", this is the closest to zero I've ever seen.

On the other hand, you won't forget what it means. And further you
will easily find it again with a search engine.

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