Java slow?

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Master Programmer - 09 Nov 2006 07:59 GMT

Hi

I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a
friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece
of sh.t ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that
doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month).

Thanks

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Chris Uppal - 09 Nov 2006 13:05 GMT

> I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a
> friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece
> of sh.t ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that
> doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month).

Either you are a Troll -- in which case you need to find a better way to pass
your time. Or you are not -- in winch case you need to find a better friend.

-- chris

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Steve W. Jackson - 09 Nov 2006 21:40 GMT

> > I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a
> > friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece
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>
> -- chris

With a name like "Master Programmer"...my vote is troll.

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A Man Crying Alone In The Wilderness - 15 Nov 2006 23:56 GMT

> Hi
>
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>
> Thanks

Astounding! /I was thinking/ Indead! How are you at learning?

There is only one language AFAIK that is more mathematically pure than
Java?

Can you name that language? Or, Is this really the question you need
answered?

The problem is rooted within the massive propoganda from companies
similar as <SNIP> that popularize a misconception that register based
architectures are faster than a stack ( of registers).

Maybe or maybe not, the answer you seek is ... Hmm, I'm not sure.

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anonymous - 15 Nov 2006 23:59 GMT

> > Hi
> >
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> Can you name that language? Or, Is this really the question you need
> answered?

( THE BS GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ,,, LEARN TO PROGRAM BY
PROGRAMMING, EXPERIENCE GAINS KNOWLEDGE, IT REALLY DOESN"T MATTER WHAT
LANGUAGE YOU CARE FOR, PREFIX, INFIX OR POSTFIX, WHAT YOU MAY NEED IS
'HOW MANY PAGES OF CODE CAN I SHOW FOR MYSELF?' ONE HUNDRED, TWO
HUNDRED, FIVE HUNDRED PAGES OF NEW CODE PER MONTH, ... TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF CODE, BY THEN YOU WILL KNOW! OR, WILL YOU SIMPLY
BELIEVE ME? VLIW SMP MPP FORTH IS 'THE WAY' OF ANY DIRECTION OF
DIMENSION OF TRUTH, FOR MOST PROBLEMS, in theory, REGARDS MAW)

> The problem is rooted within the massive propoganda from companies
> similar as <SNIP> that popularize a misconception that register based
> architectures are faster than a stack ( of registers).
>
> Maybe or maybe not, the answer you seek is ... Hmm, I'm not sure.

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Roedy Green - 16 Nov 2006 02:13 GMT

On 8 Nov 2006 23:59:23 -0800, "Master Programmer"
<master_programmer@outgun.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
someone who said :

>I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a
>friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece
>of sh.t ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that
>doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month).

For crying out sideways. You still recycling those old trolls.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/benchmark.html

You will see that Java with native compilers and hotspot now can beat
C++

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Master Programmer - 16 Nov 2006 09:18 GMT

I decided against Java, I think my friend was right. I downloaded this
applet that showed reflecting water, christ it was soooo slow to run.
That clinched it for me, it was obviously the fact that it was a java
(applet) - written in java - running on java. SLOW SLOW SLOW.

Anyway I have taken my friend advice, he suggested that I learn a more
modern language, one that runs faster. Thanks for all the comments
anyway.

The Grand Master

> On 8 Nov 2006 23:59:23 -0800, "Master Programmer"
> <master_programmer@outgun.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
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> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
> Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages.

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glen herrmannsfeldt - 17 Nov 2006 04:33 GMT

(snip)

> Anyway I have taken my friend advice, he suggested that I learn a more
> modern language, one that runs faster. Thanks for all the comments
> anyway.

If you want a modern fast language, you probably want Fortran 2003.
So modern that the compilers haven't been written yet.

Java is plenty fast enough, depending a lot on what you
want to do with it.

-- glen

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Boudewijn Dijkstra - 17 Nov 2006 22:32 GMT

Op Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:18:50 +0100 schreef Master Programmer
<master_programmer@outgun.com>:

> I decided against Java, I think my friend was right. I downloaded this
> applet that showed reflecting water, christ it was soooo slow to run.
> That clinched it for me, it was obviously the fact that it was a java
> (applet) - written in java - running on java. SLOW SLOW SLOW.

Troll. One slow applet (that probably doesn't use hardware accelleration)
doesn't mean the language is slow. Perhaps it was using one of M$' crappy
VM's?

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Master Programmer - 21 Nov 2006 09:20 GMT

I recon all languages will dissapear completely over the next five
years and everyone will use MS technologies. Dont put all of your
broken java eggs in one holed basket.

The Grand Master

> Op Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:18:50 +0100 schreef Master Programmer
> <master_programmer@outgun.com>:
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> Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma:
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Master Programmer - 16 Nov 2006 09:21 GMT

I decided on Visual Basic in the end. It seems to be a lot more
powerfull. It even lets you draw out the buttons and text boxes using a
graphical interface, instead of all that old fashioned hand coding
swing sh.t.

The Grand Master

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