java developper exam (gui design)

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Bruintje Beer - 23 Feb 2008 09:45 GMT

Hi,

I am starting with my Java Developper Exam and I was asking myself if it is
alowed to use netbeans to design the gui.

John

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Jeroen Wenting - 23 Feb 2008 15:21 GMT

yes and no.
You may use a tool to build a prototype but the code you turn in has to be
created by you.
And do remember that each IDE leaves its mark on the code it generates, and
no doubt the asessors will recognise those marks even if you rename things.

What I did was take JBuilder to create a proof of concept and wrote my own
code to reflect the result of that.

> Hi,
>
> I am starting with my Java Developper Exam and I was asking myself if it
> is alowed to use netbeans to design the gui.
>
> John

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Lew - 23 Feb 2008 18:00 GMT

[top-posting corrected]

"Bruintje Beer" wrote...

>> I am starting with my Java Developper Exam and I was asking myself if it
>> is alowed to use netbeans to design the gui.

> yes and no.
> You may use a tool to build a prototype but the code you turn in has to be
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> What I did was take JBuilder to create a proof of concept and wrote my own
> code to reflect the result of that.

I don't know what the examiners actually do, but if they count use of an IDE
against you that invalidates the certification to my mind. I would much more
trust a developer who knows how to use all the right tools, including things
like IDEs, UML modeling software, word processors and the like, and all the
right APIs, over one who thinks they have to re-invent the wheel over every
little thing.

It still takes skill to do the right thing with, say, Matisse. It's not like
the IDE writes the GUI (or the WSDL, or whatever) for you; it simply automates
some of the drudgery involved.

Whatever the examiners may think, please do use performance-enhancing software
like IDEs in the real world.

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Jeroen Wenting - 25 Feb 2008 18:53 GMT

> [top-posting corrected]
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> like, and all the right APIs, over one who thinks they have to re-invent
> the wheel over every little thing.

The exam however tests your Java skills, NOT your IDE skills.
Anyone with half a mind can slap some parts together in a GUI builder, it
takes more to know what you're doing.

> Whatever the examiners may think, please do use performance-enhancing
> software like IDEs in the real world.

And you'll have to know how to do without that IDE.
I've seen far too many kids flounder when presented with a situation where
the exact version of the IDE they'd used to "learn" Java wasn't available.
If the "run" button wasn't in the same place with the same icon they were
lost...

That's another reason Sun says you have to write your own code.

They also say you can use an IDE, but what you turn in has to be your work,
not that of a code generator.

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