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eclipse gui designing.

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TrevorBoydSmith@gmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 13:24 GMT
Do any of you all use Eclipse to build your GUIs?  And if so what tools
do you use?

I ask because I have not found any suitable plugins really that grab me
to download and spend time learning it.  The only really good gui
designer I have found is the official GUI designer that comes bundled
with NetBeans!

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I know there is a GUI designer for eclipse but it is for the eclipse
SWT library.  I am building guis for a customer that *cant* download
extra libraries.  So my point is that it has to be a swing designer.
(please no swt vs swing debate *rolls eyes* =).  thx.)
Andrew Thompson - 21 Aug 2006 13:31 GMT
TrevorBoydSm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do any of you all use Eclipse ...

Sure.

>..to build your GUIs?

Nope.  Just to code Java.

>.. And if so what tools do you use?

Java - Swing mostly, but occasionally AWT.

> I ask because I have not found any suitable plugins really that grab me
> to download and spend time learning it.  The only really good gui
> designer I have found is the official GUI designer that comes bundled
> with NetBeans!

You have an odd definition of 'good'.

Andrew T.
IchBin - 21 Aug 2006 16:33 GMT
> Do any of you all use Eclipse to build your GUIs?  And if so what tools
> do you use?
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> extra libraries.  So my point is that it has to be a swing designer.
> (please no swt vs swing debate *rolls eyes* =).  thx.)

I use Eclipse\Netbeans but I build my GUI's by hand using JGoodies
Layout manager and LAF

No, the Eclipse Visual Editor (VE plugin) can be used for SWT and SWING.

 http://www.eclipse.org/vep/WebContent/main.php

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Thanks in Advance...
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IchBin - 21 Aug 2006 16:41 GMT
>> Do any of you all use Eclipse to build your GUIs?  And if so what tools
>> do you use?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>  http://www.eclipse.org/vep/WebContent/main.php

Forgot to mention another GUI builder plugin for Eclipse. It is called
Jigloo:  http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo

If you want to find a plugin for Eclipse you can look at these two Links:

http://eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com

--
Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA              http://weconsultants.phpnet.us
'If there is one, Knowledge is the "Fountain of Youth"'
-William E. Taylor,  Regular Guy (1952-)
TrevorBoydSmith@gmail.com - 21 Aug 2006 17:13 GMT
Yes I know about the eclipse plugin site.  I have searched it quite
extensively.  (I have seen Jgoodies and Jigloo on the plugin directory
site but when I saw them originally --> I stated in the original post
above --> "I ask because I have not found any suitable plugins really
that grab me to download and spend time learning it.")

---------

I believe developers on this usenet are very good at what they do and
so I wanted to get a personal opinion from somebody who knows what he
is talking about.  I have not been successful in finding good reviews
of any of the eclipse GUI design plugins.  This is why I ask the people
on this usenet.

***(once again I would like to get opinions from people who have
actually used the plugins they suggest)***

Thanks for the contributions,
Trevor
IchBin - 21 Aug 2006 17:55 GMT
> Yes I know about the eclipse plugin site.  I have searched it quite
> extensively.  (I have seen Jgoodies and Jigloo on the plugin directory
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Thanks for the contributions,
> Trevor

I have used Netbeans Matisse, Eclipse VEP, Jigloo, Forms Layout Manager
and Instantiations WindowBuilder. They are not hard to learn. They ARE
Drag and Drop GUI builders.

Sorry for not getting into details. I have played with the fore
mentioned GUI builders. Again, I personally do not use a GUI builder for
my programs. I prefer to build my own, by-hand, using JGoodies Forms
API's. I like to know how to code front-ends and by-hand will allow me
to build complicated GUI's.

If you have to use a GUI builder then Netbeans seems to be the nicest
free GUI builder. Their is a requirement to add a second jar file to
support your GUI executable. The code that it embedded in the code is
intense.

The nicest commercial one is Instantiations WindowBuilder but you have
to put out some cash. I played with it before it became commercial. They
may have a trial period.

Eclipses VE originally had problems but I think they have worked them
out. I think the last time I tested it you could incorporate JGoodies
forms into the plugin. Think Netbeans also has this option. You will
have to look and see.

Forms Layout Manager is free and is for building JGoodies Layout format.
I tried it but put it down because I wanted to understand the JGoodies
Forms. The GUI was not letting me to do this. It would be like having a
Drag and Drop GUI for the GridBag layout. You know how complicated the
Gridbag can be.

Bottom line is their are not the many out there and be best to sit down
and look at them and figure out which one meets your needs.

Review of
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/22186/0

--
Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA              http://weconsultants.phpnet.us
'If there is one, Knowledge is the "Fountain of Youth"'
-William E. Taylor,  Regular Guy (1952-)
IchBin - 21 Aug 2006 18:01 GMT
> Yes I know about the eclipse plugin site.  I have searched it quite
> extensively.  (I have seen Jgoodies and Jigloo on the plugin directory
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Thanks for the contributions,
> Trevor

I have used Netbeans Matisse, Eclipse VEP, Jigloo, Forms Layout Manager
and Instantiations WindowBuilder. They are not hard to learn. They ARE
Drag and Drop GUI builders.

Sorry for not getting into details. I have played with the fore
mentioned GUI builders. Again, I personally do not use a GUI builder for
my programs. I prefer to build my own, by-hand, using JGoodies Forms
API's. I like to know how to code front-ends and by-hand will allow me
to build complicated GUI's.

If you have to use a GUI builder then Netbeans seems to be the nicest
free GUI builder. Their is a requirement to add a second jar file to
support your GUI executable. The code that it embedded in the code is
intense.

The nicest commercial one is Instantiations WindowBuilder but you have
to put out some cash. I played with it before it became commercial. They
may have a trial period.

Eclipses VE originally had problems but I think they have worked them
out. I think the last time I tested it you could incorporate JGoodies
forms into the plugin. Think Netbeans also has this option. You will
have to look and see.

Forms Layout Manager is free and is for building JGoodies Layout format.
I tried it but put it down because I wanted to understand the JGoodies
Forms. The GUI was not letting me to do this. It would be like having a
Drag and Drop GUI for the GridBag layout. You know how complicated the
Gridbag can be.

Bottom line is their are not the many out there and be best to sit down
and look at them and figure out which one meets your needs.

Review of
http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/22186/0

--
Thanks in Advance...
IchBin, Pocono Lake, Pa, USA              http://weconsultants.phpnet.us
'If there is one, Knowledge is the "Fountain of Youth"'
-William E. Taylor,  Regular Guy (1952-)
David Segall - 21 Aug 2006 17:24 GMT
>Do any of you all use Eclipse to build your GUIs?  And if so what tools
>do you use?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>designer I have found is the official GUI designer that comes bundled
>with NetBeans!
MyEclipse <http://www.myeclipseide.com/> have ported the open source
NetBeans Matisse GUI Builder to Eclipse but they charge for it. If you
must use Eclipse you may decide that $50.00 pa is worth it.

>------
>
>I know there is a GUI designer for eclipse but it is for the eclipse
>SWT library.  I am building guis for a customer that *cant* download
>extra libraries.  So my point is that it has to be a swing designer.
>(please no swt vs swing debate *rolls eyes* =).  thx.)
Luka Pavlič - 22 Aug 2006 15:36 GMT
Eclipse has *BY DEFAULT* visual editor! Do not download just Eclipse,
from Eclipse site download also VE
(http://www.eclipse.org/vep/WebContent/main.php) and needed plugins.
Copy-Paste plugins into eclipse and that's it. Easy as 1-2-3.

Eclipse VE is one of the best GUI builders I know. And generated code is
 also quite nice. It alows you to develop AWT, Swing and SWT visual
classes.

So... Browse around eclipse site, if you have no time, calisto can help
you. (http://www.eclipse.org/callisto/)

Bye, Luka.

> Do any of you all use Eclipse to build your GUIs?  And if so what tools
> do you use?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> extra libraries.  So my point is that it has to be a swing designer.
> (please no swt vs swing debate *rolls eyes* =).  thx.)


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