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Which book is better, Core Java or Thinking in Java?

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SteveSmith@nomail. - 01 May 2005 05:07 GMT
Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?

Is one of these two books better for learning Swing? Overall which is better for all the
important topics?

I've been using the downloaded version of Thinking in Java as a reference while reading
another book. I've just started reading Chaper 14 "Creating Windows and Applets". I'm not
that happy with it. Maybe I haven't gotten far enough into it yet but so far I don't think
he tells you enough about what the methods do or even the purpose of the different classes
like JFrame, JApplet and JPanel at least not at first. Maybe it gets better later in the
chapter so I can't say for sure it's not that good at this point.

Thank you.
ge0rge - 01 May 2005 08:51 GMT
> Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>
> Is one of these two books better for learning Swing?
...
Which of these two cars do you think is better for learning to fly - the
BMW or the Merc?

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SteveSmith@nospam.edu - 01 May 2005 11:08 GMT
>> Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>>
>> Is one of these two books better for learning Swing?
>...
>Which of these two cars do you think is better for learning to fly - the
>BMW or the Merc?

For flying? Neither. So what book would you recommend then?
Tony Morris - 01 May 2005 12:19 GMT
Neither.

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SteveSmith@nospam.edu - 01 May 2005 13:09 GMT
>Neither.

I appreciate the reply. I should have just asked for a recommendation for a first Java
book. Or maybe I didn't understand your reply. ;-)
Tony Morris - 01 May 2005 13:57 GMT
> >Neither.
>
> I appreciate the reply. I should have just asked for a recommendation for a first Java
> book. Or maybe I didn't understand your reply. ;-)

The point being made here is that there is no "best". A more specific
question would have likely yielded a more specific answer.
There are many recommendations for a place to start; some prefer X to Y and
others Y to Z.
You won't find anything that fits the criteria of "best" though.

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SteveSmith@nospam.edu - 01 May 2005 16:25 GMT
>> >Neither.
>>
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>others Y to Z.
>You won't find anything that fits the criteria of "best" though.

Recommendations is what I'm looking for. I realize people will not all have the same
opinion. Specifically I need a book for someone who is new to Java but not new to
programming. I know C++ but I am no expert on it or on object oriented programming.
Thanks.
IchBin - 01 May 2005 15:24 GMT
> Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>
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>
> Thank you.
You don't need either books just try these links

Here are the links:

Tutorial: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html
API doc : http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/

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Hal Rosser - 02 May 2005 02:17 GMT
Here is a link to a good book to learn Java
http://www.murach.com/books/jav5/index.htm
I've got maybe 20 books on Java - this is a good beginner's book
another decent book is "Head First Java"
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hfjava/

Pick one and work through it.
SteveSmith@nospam.edu - 02 May 2005 04:17 GMT
>Here is a link to a good book to learn Java
>http://www.murach.com/books/jav5/index.htm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Pick one and work through it.

Thanks, I'll take a look at the reviews.
Bryce - 02 May 2005 15:39 GMT
>Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>like JFrame, JApplet and JPanel at least not at first. Maybe it gets better later in the
>chapter so I can't say for sure it's not that good at this point.

I have found that the Thinking in Java book is a very good book, if
you already know how to program in another language, such as C/C++.

For beginners, I'd try Sun's Java Tutorial, which is also online.

Core Java was good back when I was first learning Java , but again, I
think it was best if you already knew a programming language.

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SteveSmith@nomail. - 05 May 2005 03:49 GMT
>>Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>>
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>Core Java was good back when I was first learning Java , but again, I
>think it was best if you already knew a programming language.

Thanks.
Andrew McDonagh - 02 May 2005 20:08 GMT
> Or is there something better for someone who is a beginner to Java?
>
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>
> Thank you.

Thinking in Java is available for free online...(including source code)

http://www.faqs.org/docs/think_java/TIJ3.htm

Andrew
Daniel Schmeck - 15 May 2005 15:06 GMT
Hi Steve,

I have to favourites books for learning java.

Book 1:
"Headfirst Java" from O'Reilly.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hfjava2/

Book 2:
"Just Java 2" from Prentice Hall.
http://phptr.com/title/0131482114

For both books are sample chapters available.
Greetings from Germany
Daniel
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