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java vs MFC

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ralph@conexoscomponentes.com.br - 24 Aug 2003 08:04 GMT
Java/Swing or C++/MFC on windows ?

Anything better ?
Ralf Schneewei? - 25 Aug 2003 02:48 GMT
Hi,
it depends on what you want. The GUI-logic of the MFC is better because it
is mature. But Java with Swing runs also on other machines.

Ralf Schneewei?
www.oop-trainer.de

> Java/Swing or C++/MFC on windows ?
>
> Anything better ?
Todd Blackley - 25 Aug 2003 03:21 GMT
Programmed on MFC/C++ for Years, then Java/Swing for 4 years and now
C#/WinForms for 1 year.  Anything is better than MFC/C++!  Java/Swing and
C#/WinForms are about equals in what they do and how they do it, just do it
a wee bit different from each other but are both nice.

Todd Blackley
> Hi,
> it depends on what you want. The GUI-logic of the MFC is better because it
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> >
> > Anything better ?
Tilman Sporkert - 25 Aug 2003 18:45 GMT
> Programmed on MFC/C++ for Years, then Java/Swing for 4 years and now
> C#/WinForms for 1 year.  Anything is better than MFC/C++!  Java/Swing and
> C#/WinForms are about equals in what they do and how they do it, just do it
> a wee bit different from each other but are both nice.

C#/WinForms still ships with no layout managers at all. It's all absolute
positioning. I still have not figured out how to do a form with lots of
labels and text fields that all line up nicely and grow as you resize the
window - without calculating the position and size of every widget
individually.

If you program Java/Swing applications for Windows platforms, I suggest you
look at an alternate Windows look-and-feel class. The Windows look-and-feel
that comes with the JDK leaves a lot to be desired. There's a really nice
one called JGoodies Looks available at
  http://community.java.net/javadesktop/

Tilman
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen - 25 Aug 2003 20:56 GMT
> C#/WinForms still ships with no layout managers at all. It's all absolute
> positioning. I still have not figured out how to do a form with lots of
> labels and text fields that all line up nicely and grow as you resize the
> window - without calculating the position and size of every widget
> individually.

I think they want your IDE (VS.Net, C#Builder) to do it for you. :P
Todd Blackley - 27 Aug 2003 03:17 GMT
Hum, Yes C#/WinFlorm do not have layouts, but they do have other positioning
/ layout tools that do work great.  I've found that I can produce the same
results in both Java/C# with nested panels that use their respective
positioning tools.

Todd
> > Programmed on MFC/C++ for Years, then Java/Swing for 4 years and now
> > C#/WinForms for 1 year.  Anything is better than MFC/C++!  Java/Swing and
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>
> Tilman
Jacob - 25 Aug 2003 17:11 GMT
> Anything better ?

Qt: http://www.trolltech.com
GrayGeek - 29 Aug 2003 12:31 GMT
>> Anything better ?
>
> Qt: http://www.trolltech.com

My suggestion also.   It is cross platform with a minimum of tweaking, free
under Linux but costs $ under WinXX
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