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Paul Schmidt - 11 May 2004 16:24 GMT
I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
files that can be converted to PDF using normal tools (like Ghostscript)
, must be able to work in Linux with any JDBC enabled database.  Prefer
something FREE.

Anyone know of such a beast?

Paul
Herman Timmermans - 11 May 2004 18:01 GMT
> I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
> preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Paul
Maybe JasperReports?
http://jasperreports.sourceforge.net/index.html
or Datavision
http://datavision.sourceforge.net/
or JFreereport
http://www.jfree.org/jfreereport/index.html
or some free older version of Sunshine Reports (visual front-end to
JasperReports) at
http://www.pratocity.com/index.jsp?mod=/download/download.jsp

Hope this helps,
Brgds Herman

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Paul Schmidt - 11 May 2004 17:30 GMT
>>I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
>>preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
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> Hope this helps,
> Brgds Herman

Thanks,

Paul
Ronald Cole - 11 May 2004 23:24 GMT
> I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
> preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anyone know of such a beast?

What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?

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Paul Schmidt - 12 May 2004 15:34 GMT
>>I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
>>preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?

It's a major pain in the donkey?  I was looking for something in the
Crystal Reports vein, but without the requirement of running Windows.
Looks like there are a couple, so I'll probably go with those.

Paul
Josef Garvi - 14 May 2004 08:02 GMT
> What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?

Sounds like an interesting approach to me, but seems hard to get started.

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Luke Webber - 15 May 2004 01:20 GMT
> > What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?
>
> Sounds like an interesting approach to me, but seems hard to get started.

Every time I've considered it, I've bounced, hard. It's an ugly, ugly
business IMO.

Luke
Abdullah Kauchali - 15 May 2004 13:30 GMT
> > > What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?
> >
> > Sounds like an interesting approach to me, but seems hard to get started.
>
> Every time I've considered it, I've bounced, hard. It's an ugly, ugly
> business IMO.

Hi Luke,

We've recently tabled XSL-FO (viz. Apache FOP et al) for investigation as
our reporting solution.  Can you please share some of your experiences.

Kind regards

Abdullah
Luke Webber - 16 May 2004 13:52 GMT
> > > > What's wrong with generating XML and then using XSLT or XSL-FO?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> We've recently tabled XSL-FO (viz. Apache FOP et al) for investigation as
> our reporting solution.  Can you please share some of your experiences.

Not experiences. More like bloody-minded prejudices.  <g>

I've always considered XML itself to be a fairly ugly thing. Add on XSLT and
XSL:FO, and it raises me to screaming pitch. I would as soon beat myself to
death as try to code reports by hand using these execrable standards. OTOH,
given a decent front-end UI, I could happily work with them. But given a
decent front-end UI, it really wouldn't matter whether we were talking
XSL:FO or any given proprietary reporting tool.

Long story short, I don't consider XML and XSLT to be truly human-readable,
and hence they're not an answer in themselves for any reporting requirement.
They might be an acceptable format for a reporting tool to use, but they're
not much use just on their own.

Luke
Josef Garvi - 18 May 2004 11:15 GMT
> Long story short, I don't consider XML and XSLT to be truly human-readable,

I agree that once you get a complex document, the namespaces and everything
make them really hard to read.

> and hence they're not an answer in themselves for any reporting requirement.
> They might be an acceptable format for a reporting tool to use, but they're
> not much use just on their own.

Have you tried Formatting Objects Authoring?
http://foa.sourceforge.net/
I haven't done so myself yet, but it's the closest thing to a GUI builder
I've come across so far.

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Roedy Green - 15 May 2004 18:00 GMT
>I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
>preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
>files that can be converted to PDF using normal tools (like Ghostscript)
>, must be able to work in Linux with any JDBC enabled database.  Prefer
>something FREE.

See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/acrobat.html

These sorts of tools tend to be expensive. One way to get PS is just
to use any reporting package and hook it up to a generic PS printer
driver, and capture the output to a file.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/reportgenerator.html

The Adobe people I think have a printer driver for windows that
captures PDF files.

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Alex Molochnikov - 17 May 2004 21:37 GMT
Paul,

I just noticed your post. We have developed a report generator that might
meet your requirements:

1. written in Java
2. can produce PDF-formatted reports
3. not free, but if you are willing to become a beta-tester, you can have a
full production license for free
4. has an API to be called from your apps
5. can incorporate your own Java code

Not sure what databases it must support for you; we have 5, plus MySQL
coming within a couple of days.

I announced it on this NG a few days ago, but you probably missed it the
same way I missed your post.

If interested, you can find it here:

www.gestalt.com/Scribe

Login: guest
Password: star

Regards,

Alex Molochnikov
Gestalt Corporation

> I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
> preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Paul
Alex Molochnikov - 17 May 2004 21:38 GMT
Paul,

I just noticed your post. We have developed a report generator that might
meet your requirements:

1. written in Java
2. can produce PDF-formatted reports
3. not free, but if you are willing to become a beta-tester, you can have a
full production license for free
4. has an API to be called from your apps
5. can incorporate your own Java code

Not sure what databases it must support for you; we have 5, plus MySQL
coming within a couple of days.

I announced it on this NG a few days ago, but you probably missed it the
same way I missed your post.

If interested, you can find it here:

www.gestalt.com/Scribe

Login: guest
Password: star

Regards,

Alex Molochnikov
Gestalt Corporation

> I am looking for a Reporting tool, needs to be able to work with Java,
> preferably written in Java, should be able to produce PDF or postscript
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Paul
Alex Molochnikov - 17 May 2004 21:47 GMT
Oops... Sorry for the duplicate post. That's what happens when Outlook
Express acts up...


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