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Java-based RDBMS Report Generator - beta testers needed

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Alex Molochnikov - 07 May 2004 03:41 GMT
Hello everyone,

We are looking for beta-testers for our new product - Scribe Report
Generator. At the moment, Scribe supports 5 relational databases: MS SQL
Server 2000, Sybase, Oracle, McKoi and Mimer.

Very briefly: Scribe is written in Java, is based on visual programming and
can be extended by adding user-written Java classes; it comes with the API
library to let other Java-based apps run Scribe reports programmatically.

The details are on our website: www.gestalt.com/Scribe (temporary location).

User: guest
Password: star

We offer a free license to everyone who provides us with a feedback on bugs,
inconsistencies, or constructive criticism that helps us refine Scribe.

Please respond to: scribe<at>gestalt<dot>com

Regards,

Alex Molochnikov
Gestalt Corporation
David Harper - 07 May 2004 07:08 GMT
> Hello everyone,
>
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> can be extended by adding user-written Java classes; it comes with the API
> library to let other Java-based apps run Scribe reports programmatically.

Let me know when it supports MySQL, and I'll be happy to test it for you.

David Harper
Cambridge, England
Alex Molochnikov - 07 May 2004 08:26 GMT
We haven't considered MySQL so far, mostly due to some doubts about the
marketability of a commercial product targeted at a free database. (McKoi is
free too, but in this case we already had the working connectivity layer
from another project, so adding support to McKoi in Scribe was a
no-brainer).

If you can dispel these doubts I am ready to listen.

On a purely technical note, adding support to MySQL would be a 3-5 days
affair.

Regards,

Alex.

> > Hello everyone,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> David Harper
> Cambridge, England
Mark Matthews - 07 May 2004 15:21 GMT
> We haven't considered MySQL so far, mostly due to some doubts about the
> marketability of a commercial product targeted at a free database. (McKoi is
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>> David Harper
>> Cambridge, England

Alex,

<shameless-plug>

MySQL is 'free' as in freedom when used under the GPL, but it is also
available under commercial license (it is _not_ shareware or freeware,
which is a common misconception).

MySQL _is_ backed by a commercial entity (MySQL AB), has an installed
base well into the millions, is downloaded over 35,000 times daily, and
is in the top 3 in RDBMS deployments where the connectivity is primarily
Java.

MySQL databases are used to power Sabre's Travelocity, a large majority
of the Yahoo! properties and the Associated Press along with many large
scale data warehouses, including a multi-billion row warehouse for Cox
Communications.

I think those numbers should at least be a little compelling for an ISV
such as yourself to consider supporting it (especially one that does
reporting).
</shameless-plug>

P.S. I would've contacted you directly and kept the 'advocacy' out of
the newsgroup, if it weren't for the anti-spam techniques you've been
forced to use :(

    -Mark

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Jason Bell - 21 May 2004 12:11 GMT
If that's the case I would seriously revise my business model and market
research.  MySQL is widely used and a serious contender in the RDBMS market.

jaseb

> Alex Molochnikov wrote:>
>
>>We haven't considered MySQL so far, mostly due to some doubts about the
>>marketability of a commercial product targeted at a free database.
Alex Molochnikov - 21 May 2004 17:04 GMT
Jason,

Other people have already expressed interest in using Scribe with MySQL, so
we added support to it. The full list of currently supported databases is on
our website: www.gestalt.com/Scribe (user: guest, password: star).

Alex.

> If that's the case I would seriously revise my business model and market
> research.  MySQL is widely used and a serious contender in the RDBMS market.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >>We haven't considered MySQL so far, mostly due to some doubts about the
> >>marketability of a commercial product targeted at a free database.
Jason Bell - 21 May 2004 17:58 GMT
Alex,
I'll be happy to beta test it then.  Could you send me the info please.
Regards
Jason

> Jason,
>
> Other people have already expressed interest in using Scribe with MySQL, so
> we added support to it. The full list of currently supported databases is on
> our website: www.gestalt.com/Scribe (user: guest, password: star).
Alex Molochnikov - 21 May 2004 18:47 GMT
Jason

All info to get you started is on this page: www.gestalt.com/Scribe. This is
a temporary location, until a permanent website for Scribe is built. It is
login/password protected: guest/star.

Before getting into the installation and testing, have a look at the video
clips on the given page. This will give you some idea about the design
philosophy of Scribe.

Next, you need to download one of Scribe versions: Personal (one install.exe
file) or Enterprise (client-server version) with two install files:
installC.exe and installS.exe. I assume here that you are going to run it
under Windows. If you choose Linux, your downloaded files will have the
extension .bin.gz. Personal version is quicker to install, but it has less
features (see http://www.gestalt.com/Scribe/ScribeFeatureMatrix.html).

After installing Scribe, and before starting it up, you will need to
download MySQL's JDBC driver from their website. We cannot distribute this
file due to MySQL's interpretation of GPL. See
http://www.gestalt.com/Scribe/databasedrivers.html. The file has to be
copied into Scribe installation directory.

When you start Scribe, it will offer you a choice between a Demo mode, and a
full-featured 30-day license. The demo mode requires no further
communication with us. The 30-day license option will ask you for your
e-mail address (the rest of the fields are optional) and then it will
connect to our server over the Web, the server will generate the license key
and e-mail it to you. Choose whatever you are more comfortable with.

Scribe comes with a number of pre-configured demo reports that run against a
sample McKoi-based "Northwind" database
(http://www.gestalt.com/Scribe/DemoSetup.html). You can have a peek at it
for the sake of getting a quick start. To connect to MySQL, you will need to
set up MySQL connection in either Personal (using menu Launch > DB
Connection... item), or Enterprise Server (Data Sources tab in Scribe Server
Administrator window).

That's all I can tell you at this point; if you run into a roadblock, e-mail
me to: <scribe> at <gestalt> dot <com>. There is also on-line docs available
on our website, and as part of the installed app through JavaHelp (F1), and
the context-sensitive help that you can get on most of windows and their
components (Ctrl-F1).

Finally, you probably missed our initial offer that is no longer visible on
this NG (at least, not through my newsreader). If we get a constructive
feedback from you that helps us fix bugs and/or improve Scribe, we are
willing to give you a fully-enabled permanent license as a "thank-you".

Best regards,

Alex.

PS: we age going to add an automatic update feature to Scribe Enterprise
that will upgrade the existing installation of Scribe to the new release
(Eclipse style) upon user's request. This will happen some time today, or
tomorrow at the latest. You may want to wait until this is done, otherwise,
you will have to download Scribe one more time in order to get the next
release.

> Alex,
> I'll be happy to beta test it then.  Could you send me the info please.
> Regards
> Jason
Alex Molochnikov - 17 May 2004 21:51 GMT
> > Let me know when it supports MySQL, and I'll be happy to test it for you.

David, we are a couple of days away from releasing Scribe with support for
MySQL. If you are still interested in beta-testing, please let me know:
<scribe> at <gestalt> dot <com>

Regards,

Alex.
Mladen Adamovic - 07 May 2004 15:12 GMT
> Hello everyone,
>
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> Alex Molochnikov
> Gestalt Corporation


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