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Java Forum / Databases / January 2004Which database to choose
Hi I have got the task to write an application which is going to be sold. In this app. I need a database to hold datainput from users. Now which databsae can I use to distribute with the app? I've asked MS and they say that if Access we must buy a Access licenses for each app. we sell. That would be too expencive. I see that Filemaker have something to USD 499,- and it could be a solution. But I woul like to hear I any of you have some better ideas? TIA Tommy PS some of the data we must use in the app is now in a Access database t http://mckoi.com/database/ Freely distributable. Open source. Pure Java. Can be embedded into your app. GPL. HTH Alex Molochnikov Gestalt Corporation www.gestalt.com > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > t Thanks I will check it out. Tommy I don't think McKoi is freely distributable in a commercial app - you better check that out. Look at the FirstSQL/J 100% Java ORDBMS - enhanced and optimized for J2EE to J2ME platforms and everything in between on any JDK 1.1 or greater JVM. http://www.firstsql.com/ it has commercial distribution costs in the same range as McKoi. Dave M. > Thanks > > I will check it out. > > Tommy > I don't think McKoi is freely distributable in a commercial app - you better > check that out. The issue of McKoi licensing is covered in the McKoi mailing archive, as well as in the FAQ and the license text. In brief: aggregating McKoi (.jar files + JDBC drivers) with any app - commercial or not - is free. The catch is to comply with the terms of GPL - i.e. the program making use of McKoi must not have any built-in dependencies on McKoi. IOW, it must only use standard JDBC method calls, avoid using McKoi-specific database control API, and exile the name of McKoi JDBC driver into an external file, rather than hardcoding the String in the program. > Look at the FirstSQL/J 100% Java ORDBMS - enhanced and optimized for J2EE to > J2ME platforms and everything in between on any JDK 1.1 or greater JVM. > > http://www.firstsql.com/ it has commercial distribution costs in the same > range as McKoi. Huh? You obviously don't know McKoi's distribution rules (see above) - how can you claim the distribution costs of McKoi to be "in the same range"? One more time: McKoi IS FREE. > Dave M. Alex Molochnikov Gestalt Corporation www.gestalt.com > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > too expencive. I see that Filemaker have something to USD 499,- and it could > be a solution. But I woul like to hear I any of you have some better ideas? If you are developing in Java, you should use a Java RDBMS. Check out our product -- FirstSQL/J (see my sig). We provide very reasonable runtime licensing.  SignatureLee Fesperman, FirstSQL, Inc. (http://www.firstsql.com) ============================================================== * The Ultimate DBMS is here! * FirstSQL/J Object/Relational DBMS (http://www.firstsql.com) > I have got the task to write an application which is going to be sold. In > this app. I need a database to hold datainput from users. Now which databsae > can I use to distribute with the app? I've asked MS and they say that if > Access we must buy a Access licenses for each app. we sell. That would be > too expencive. I see that Filemaker have something to USD 499,- and it could > be a solution. But I woul like to hear I any of you have some better ideas? MySQL is a good open-source database system. It's free. It's easy to install and use. It has an excellent JDBC driver. There's a great book by Paul DuBois. It's used by big names like NASA. It's not a Microsoft product, but you *can* run it on Windows if you don't have a proper operating system. Visit www.mysql.com for information and downloads. David Harper [A satisfied MySQL admin and Java programmer from sunny Cambridge, England] I don't think I'd classify MySQL as a database that you would distribute with your app. It's a very capable DB Server (although I personally prefer PostgreSQL) but if I interpret the question correctly an Embedded DB is needed. You will need to clarify your needs a bit better to get a good answer - "Which database to choose" is like asking which hammer is the best - well that's very much going to depend on the task at hand. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=java+embedded+database&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&star t=10&sa=N will give you quite a few relevant results. Google first - ask later ... > .... from sunny Cambridge, England You were joking - were you ;-) HTH, -- Leo Gaggl Adelaide, South Australia <--- now that's SUNNY :) >> I have got the task to write an application which is going to be sold. In >> this app. I need a database to hold datainput from users. Now which [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > [A satisfied MySQL admin and Java programmer from sunny Cambridge, > England] > I don't think I'd classify MySQL as a database that you would distribute > with your app. Quite the contrary. At the 2003 MySQL Users Conference and Expo, Sanjeeev Binaykia presented a talk titled "DynamicCD: Delivering MySQL-Driven Websites on CD" The talk described a method for bundling MySQL with the Apache web server and PHP scripting language to create a complete, self-contained, database-driven web site that can be run directly from a CD. Full details here ... http://www.mysql.com/events/uc2003/session.html David Harper A satisfied MySQL user ("we should have him stuffed!") > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > t Hi, using a RDBMS may have a few advantages but i prefer alternatives. Some open source databases: http://www.prevayler.org http://www.drjava.de/smyle/ A commercial product with fair pricing: http://www.db4o.com Notice that all of the projects i've listed do not support SQL but real transparent object persistence. Greetings, Stefan Thank you very much all of you. I will look at all the links you've provided. But as far as MySQL it's not free if you embedd it in a commercial product, in this case they charge 80 euros for each copy sold. But I will now study all the material From the not so sunny Denmark 8>) Tommy tommy schrieb: > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > too expencive. I see that Filemaker have something to USD 499,- and it could > be a solution. 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